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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrun Christianson
    A gentleman makes all around him feel comfortable and welcome. He doesn't point out our flaws. Holding open a door for a woman comes naturally. He thinks about the feelings of those around him. He would never swear or cuss in front of a woman and only rarely discusses politics in front of her and never finances. He isn't forced or pretentious. He is discreet, trustworthy, and loyal. He isn't loud or obnoxious because he doesn't need to be, he can get his ideas across firmly but quietly. He appreciates art, science, history, and education of all types. Women flock to him because they feel so good in his presence. Men want to be like him. He isn't a coward in any sense of the word and he honors his agreements be they expressed or implied. He is generous, altruistic, and compassionate.

    I am lucky enough know a man like this.
    Lady, I think that you've been into the cooking sherry again (or maybe back from a secret weekend!!!)!!!
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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    Ah, that is so sweet . He sure does sound like a Libertarian (in the classical sense) to me . I am guilty of pointing out "flaws". That is not a good idea, as it is only a matter of perspectives. That can just throw back at yourself.

    Make sure that not too many women flock around him . From reading all those lovely acts it seems that he is almost pretending. Should he not just be himself?

    Now I must go and see a Doris Day/Rock Hudson love comedy.




    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrun Christianson
    A gentleman makes all around him feel comfortable and welcome. He doesn't point out our flaws. Holding open a door for a woman comes naturally. He thinks about the feelings of those around him. He would never swear or cuss in front of a woman and only rarely discusses politics in front of her and never finances. He isn't forced or pretentious. He is discreet, trustworthy, and loyal. He isn't loud or obnoxious because he doesn't need to be, he can get his ideas across firmly but quietly. He appreciates art, science, history, and education of all types. Women flock to him because they feel so good in his presence. Men want to be like him. He isn't a coward in any sense of the word and he honors his agreements be they expressed or implied. He is generous, altruistic, and compassionate.

    I am lucky enough know a man like this.

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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    What's so good about a gentleman? I like people (men and women) who are natural and down-to-earth. But most of the qualities Sigrun describes I find to be excellent character traits. Here's a great poem by Rudyard Kipling along similar lines:

    [IF]

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
    But make allowance for their doubting too,
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

    If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
    If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much,
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

    --Rudyard Kipling
    "Whatever is done from love always occurs beyond good and evil." - F. Nietzsche

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    Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    Quote Originally Posted by blut-ehre
    Just as the name says , I was wondering what to the people of skadi; a gentleman was classified as? Please no dictionary definitions just whatever you can think of.
    its kinda-sorta like obsenity, Hard to explain but I know it when I see it!
    Some days you just want to holler your head off!!!

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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    What's so good about a gentleman? I like people (men and women) who are natural and down-to-earth. I actually don't mind loud people - but depends on the situation. I think a sense of humor is one of the most important character traits I value, along with intelligence. I think genuine consideration is important, more than Pavlovian "politeness."

    I also think it's less important to be nice, and more important to treat people according to what they deserve.

    I'm not sure about not discussing politics or finances in front of women. Finances I consider private, but politics? Last time I checked, women have the right to vote in the USA - and I don't appreciate them being imbeciles.

    But most of the qualities Sigrun describes I find to be excellent character traits. Here's a great poem by Rudyard Kipling along similar lines:

    [IF]

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
    But make allowance for their doubting too,
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

    If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
    If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much,
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

    --Rudyard Kipling
    "Whatever is done from love always occurs beyond good and evil." - F. Nietzsche

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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    Quote Originally Posted by old aryan
    Lady, I think that you've been into the cooking sherry again (or maybe back from a secret weekend!!!)!!!
    Jealous?

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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Volksdeutscher
    Ah, that is so sweet . He sure does sound like a Libertarian (in the classical sense) to me . I am guilty of pointing out "flaws". That is not a good idea, as it is only a matter of perspectives. That can just throw back at yourself.

    Make sure that not too many women flock around him . From reading all those lovely acts it seems that he is almost pretending. Should he not just be himself?

    Now I must go and see a Doris Day/Rock Hudson love comedy.
    He is a gem and he doesn't pretend. Some men are just better than others.

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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    Quote Originally Posted by old aryan
    My goodness, who is this man -- Al Gore?
    Discretion, Old Aryan. Why would I want all the women to know who I'm talking about? I'd rather keep him for myself, thanks.

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    A gentleman not only knows how to apologize...he does.

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    Post Re: What makes a gentleman, a gentleman ?

    I judge a man by three factors, their brains, their heart and their guts. These three factors, by themselves, alone, are not sufficient by which to judge a "gentleman". For this you must ad: honor, duty and loyality. A gentleman must judge his own actions in light of these three values. What are the ramifications of a given action? Is there a duty component? If so, the other components also come into play. Likewise, if there is an honor or loyality component, duty may or will come into play. Successfully balancing these values in taking action will bring about the best solution. This solution will have correct and moral value which is a necessity for a gentleman.

    Sigrun Christianson has supplied the other components we all recognize in an educated, civilized gentleman.

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