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    Decision Time: Evacuate the USA or Bunker Down?

    It's 10 minutes to midnight, and the curfew is at 12. When the clock strikes, the armed forces hit the streets. The banks close, and your food is delivered to your house in rations. They choose the food. They choose the water. They are your health. you are required to be vaccinated. You are informed that your house and every house in America that they can find will be searched for weapons, drugs, and anything they deem you are not allowed to have. All cash that they can find will be taken and you will be given an "official USA temporary federal reserve note(s)" stating the amount they took, which will eventually be transferable at the banks once they re-open for a new form of currency. Your stolen cash, gold, silver will be exchangeable via the "official USA temporary federal reserve note(s)" for a fraction of what your money was worth.

    The banks will be closed for an indeterminate amount of time. What little food you had stored and enjoyed buying at the grocery store will be eaten within a week. Maybe you had some non-perishables stored which you can enjoy, maybe the armed forces took them deeming them "unhealthy". They know what's best of course, they have guns and they are angry. You and your neighbors all will be receiving the same amount and type of food each week. The "courses" vary, but the consistency and location they come from don't. Where do they come from ? You don't know because there is no mandatory labeling. For all you know the canned beef stew you received is flavored soy. It doesn't matter because you will never know. Soy is better for your anyhow, the government says so.

    "The government has no problem getting you and the rest of America food so no need to worry", the last soldier who delivered to your block said. "They have taken over all the local farms and are producing set crops based on what is plentiful and best for your health". Rumors are going around the block there might have been some sort of "terrorist network" responsible for a major attack on a number of simultaneous financial buildings, nobody is sure what exactly happened or why, but the general lingo being heard is "terrorism" and "the economy". Internet, phones and television has been cut off so the "terrorist network" cannot communicate or find out from main stream media what "emergency government plans" are being taken, so they cannot "retaliate further or plan coordinated attacks in set locations based on what main stream media may show". Everyone is in the dark ... literally.

    Electricity and running water has been rationed to 2 hours a day. Everyone has been suggested each day to store as much fresh water as possible and utilize the electricity to the best of their needs during the hours they are supplied. They own the grid and the electricity pumps the water, they get to chose when you can use it. Each town or county, depending on location has access to water and electricity at different hours every day. Some people have solar systems set up, which they are allowed to use to charge up to 2 hours worth of battery backup a day "to be fair to the other people". The rest is wired to the grid. A control system is set up which automatically does this. Tampering with it is a federal offense.

    Nobody is exactly sure when things will get back to normal. Crime hasn't been much of an issue, because the armed forces are allowed to detain individuals under probably cause since it is a "national crisis situation". A number of people on the block alone were taken when the first wave of inspections hit the homes for having marijuana and other substances on them. Nobody is sure where they went or when they will return. The private prison system which has bought out the federal prisons recently is not required to inform relatives until 90 days after incarceration of what offense or amount of time they will be serving. Until then, family members await a letter to be brought to them.

    A number of AM radio stations work, which are being broadcast from local universities under government direction to inform the population of the situation. They are pre-recordings of the President daily, which are electronically sent to the local Universities for radio play. The government can only use phones, internet and other forms of communication until order is restored, whenever that will be. The radio can only be used for 2 hours per day due to the electrical ration, so most families listen. All of the talk is focused solely on America, nobody has a clue what the rest of the world is doing. The talk is usually brief, about 10 - 15 minutes in which we are informed that the "President is taking steps to help the American people and bring prosperity, jobs, and the American dream back to the hearts and homes are hard working citizens. When the banks re-open things will be better then they ever were".

    It's 10 minutes to midnight, and you have to make a decision now. When the clock strikes, the government may take over. 10 minutes can be 10 days, 10 weeks, 10 months or 10 years. Or it could just be 10 minutes from now. I'm interested in knowing your plans, as an American. Do you have an evacuation plan ? Is there a point that will come or already has come where you've decided a place to retreat to before things could get messy ? Or are you planning to / bought land in a local small farm community away from major populations ? Just simply moving to the countryside ? Plan to fight off the government with whatever it takes if it gets bad ? Or are you just going to ride it out where you are and hope things get better ?

    Or maybe this is just a lot of something over nothing ...
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    I can say that your post doesn't sound that far fetched. The U.S. gov't is already trying to find means to dismantle our Constitution and slowly strip us of our freedoms and rights; which are in truth privileges. The gov't gives "policing power" to organizations such as the TSA and FEMA, which basically desensitize the population into receiving regular frisking from appointed "authorities."

    There have already been corporate power grabs in the agriculture and water sectors of our commerce and even more in the infrastructure of most cities. There are even attempts to try and regulate the internet! If that doesn't raise a red flag on its own then I don't know what will.

    Though, I am starting to believe that this is what the gov't wants to do. With all the wars being made and the tensions arising from foreign entities it is inevitable that a massive war or an attack on the U.S. will ensue. With such an event transpiring the "President" will suspend the Constitution under emergency powers and lead the country into disarray and martial law. A perfect orchestration for complete control of a populace and its resources.

    Do I have a plan? I have formed some plans, but in all honesty I don't know how fruitful they'll be. In the coming crisis most major highways and routes will be military/TSA/FEMA checkpoints. Transportation will be extremely limited if not halted altogether. The internet will be cut off to prevent "hijacking", but in reality to prevent communication. Essentially putting us in a black hole of information. I wouldn't even doubt that cell phones will have limited to no use either. Best option will probably be short-wave radio or ham radio.

    There will be military-authority sweeps through neighborhoods to collect firearms, medical supplies, and other "goods" in order to ration for the "good of all". People will also be detained or herded into camps or compounds to better supervise the populace - don't want people surviving on their own.

    This will only be the beginning!

    Whether or not this will really happen is definitely up for debate, but if it were to transpire this is how I see it happening.
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    evacuate or bunker down

    for those of us that believe this is feasible, do you think it wise to post whatever plans we may have online?

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    If people think there is truly trouble brewing, they should think about organizing and cooperating in groups.

    Although, it is a good idea to have a fall back location in case of area contamination, and it needs to be evacuated.

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    Obama's Executive Order Authorizes Peacetime Martial Law

    President Barack Obama issued an Executive Order on March 16 giving the White House absolute control over all the country’s natural resources in case of a natural disaster or during a time of war.
    In the order, the National Defense Resources Preparedness Order, the President granted to himself the authority to approve the dispensing of all domestic energy, production, transportation, food, and water supplies as he deems necessary to protect national security.

    Despite the national defense hurdle that ostensibly must be jumped in order for the order to take effect, the text of the document itself does not limit implementation to a time of war. In fact, the specific sections of the order make it clear that the President may take complete command and control of the country’s natural resources in peacetime, as well.

    In fact, the President may invoke the powers of this order to “meet national defense requirements” in “the full spectrum of emergencies.” The relevant sections read:

    Section 101. Purpose. This order delegates authorities and addresses national defense resource policies and programs under the Defense Production Act of 1950, as amended (the "Act").

    Sec. 102. Policy. The United States must have an industrial and technological base capable of meeting national defense requirements and capable of contributing to the technological superiority of its national defense equipment in peacetime and in times of national emergency. The domestic industrial and technological base is the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authorities provided in the Act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure it is capable of responding to the national defense needs of the United States.

    Sec. 103. General Functions. Executive departments and agencies (agencies) responsible for plans and programs relating to national defense (as defined in section 801(j) of this order), or for resources and services needed to support such plans and programs, shall:

    (a) identify requirements for the full spectrum of emergencies, including essential military and civilian demand;

    (b) assess on an ongoing basis the capability of the domestic industrial and technological base to satisfy requirements in peacetime and times of national emergency, specifically evaluating the availability of the most critical resource and production sources, including subcontractors and suppliers, materials, skilled labor, and professional and technical personnel;

    The underlying legal authority for the execution of such a radical order is found in the Defense Production Act of 1950, the President claims. That law combined with the rights vested in him as Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces supposedly empowers the President to endow himself with these expansive powers.

    Just how expansive are the claimed powers and what resources are included in their scope? Livestock? Yes. All food “resources” and “resource facilities?” Yes. Veterinary clinics? Yes. All forms of energy? Yes. Will the President control the water supply? Yes.

    more...
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...me-martial-law

    The executive order power a president wields is de facto dictatorship. It is the same as the Letters of Marque issued by Louis XIV. It is absolutism.

    Now, all absolute dictatorships are not created equal. When a dictator is one of his people and cares for them, then things are not really so bad... the best interests of the dictator and the best interests of the nation are mostly the same. But when you have multiculturalism, with a communist multiculturalist negro as the dictator, ruling over a group of people toward whom he feels great antagonism, the only history we have to learn from in this case is the Holodomor.

    Multiculturalism does not work. It is anti-culturalism. It is evil, and it will always end badly.
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    Gentlemen, {Ladies too of course}
    This is an exact copy of an E-mail I sent my lady friend Marci yesterday morning. {I am sure this post on Skadi made me think of it}


    Friday morning and I have been up since 5:30.
    I got up after having had a whole night of terrible dreams, nightmares!
    I was trying to go somewhere on a plane and got stuck in 'waiting' which was a metal box out in the sun with 20-30 people in it. We couldn't get out and it was really hot so I busted out and split.
    Then the whole bunch of airport cops were after me. Every where I went there were cops and they were looking for me! So I started whipping their ass and taking the guns and ammo away from every one that fxxxxx with me. And then I just started killed them on sight. I knew I would never make it home to feed my critters or take care of the place. I was gona die here today and for no reason. I don't sit in metal boxes out in the sun, period. I just wanted to go home so I just started shooting every one that stood in my way.
    Just bam! a head shot every time, get their ammo and keep moving.
    I just wanted to go home but they wouldn't let me; so as you can see I was perfectly within my rights to kill them. Just get in my way and bam again! I was going home... and I was never so glad to wake up in bed {you guessed it} at home ahhhh...

    Now I have a bunch of Pizza sauce cooking and a dough 'rose' and awaiting my great culinary touches. {I'll be back} There... Yes, here I am at home on my 25 acres and I don't ever want to leave it. I can do what I always wanted to do and that is just have a good home and just stay there. I can make knives and sell them by mail order. Have a good salesman like old 'Joefur' to deal my knives and I can make knives, finish my book
    "Jack's Revenge", A brilliant memoir by a man with T.B.I.
    the new literary masterpiece of the 21st century and be famous. I can get me a tiller for the garden and grow everything, finish the yard and paint the house, fence the land off and clear the dead, crowded and ugly trees. Then with the new faucet installed and the counters varnished, the carpets pulled and the floor cleaned, I will again be a happy camper. Now I will go read something on the forums and think...
    'Pizza awaits'

    Yes, it sure was a terrible night.
    I tossed and turned and did not sleep very well at all.
    Hell with going places on airplanes!
    Again, I'll just stay home.


    Thank you...
    J. winters von Knife

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosLord View Post
    In the coming crisis most major highways and routes will be military/TSA/FEMA checkpoints.
    Some toll booths at bridges / tunnels have already had this in NY / NJ for years. If for example you try to enter the mid-town tunnel and simply have an expired insurance or registration sticker, the police are standing guard 24/7 ready to pull you over, grill you, and possible search your vehicle for whatever excuse they create. If NYC is to be taken as example, expect to see more "white coat" officers which mysteriously show up at the OWS protests and punch citizens in the face. Police are generally viewed in our society as "defense / protection" and the army is viewed as "offense, control". They may very well just keep beefing up the police force as they have been to keep the perception a certain way while they succeed at what they are trying to accomplish with minimal objection.
    Til árs ok friðar

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    It think the problem with resisting the current USSA Government is that most of the Militias in the 2012 do not have the advantage of a USSR with 45,000 some odd Nuclear ICBM, that could easily reduce Washington and any sort of Power they wanted to project to radio active rubble.

    The Hippies and socialist in the 1970's had that, as well as compliant Jews in the media, and various other sellouts in the government. The US Military of the 1970's was more or less a paper tiger until Reagan took the white house and began a build up that pushed the soviet side Marxist down.

    Unfortunately most of the most dangerous and psychopathic Cultural Marxist are now and always have been New York Jewish elites. And we know their position on genocide and F-ing over the Goyime.

    What is needed is an equal side opposition, that has the ability to guarantee >These Peoples< elimination should others be killed through their negligence or deliberate action. Reagan's Military Build up in the 1980's did that. NAZI Germany did that. But unfortunately we do not have anything like that on the horizon, and therefor that makes these people close to invulnerable. And what is worse, is the fact that they know this.

    So next we also know their history when it comes to "Playing God", or in their case "Playing Supreme Devil" with large amounts of resources.

    That leaves these bastards with an open door to create what ever havoc they can dream up, then blame it on who ever they like. IE "Terrorism".

    I hate to say this but at this point the best thing to do is get as far from their ruling authorities as possible and wait for this ball of government shit to roll down the hill and wipe itself out.


    If that takes leaving the US then that is fine, although I’m not sure where that would be. A better option might be relocating inside the US to an area like Alaska or some other remote area that will likely not be as much affected by the Bull Shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...me-martial-law

    The executive order power a president wields is de facto dictatorship. It is the same as the Letters of Marque issued by Louis XIV. It is absolutism.

    Now, all absolute dictatorships are not created equal. When a dictator is one of his people and cares for them, then things are not really so bad... the best interests of the dictator and the best interests of the nation are mostly the same. But when you have multiculturalism, with a communist multiculturalist negro as the dictator, ruling over a group of people toward whom he feels great antagonism, the only history we have to learn from in this case is the Holodomor.

    Multiculturalism does not work. It is anti-culturalism. It is evil, and it will always end badly.
    I would say a Half Negro, Half Jewish Marxist, who was instructed as a Muslim as a child.

    Who has made the public statement "I do Not Believe in a Constructionist Constitution".

    Any of the above Bull Shit would have gotten previous Presidents Impeached and Removed form Office. But wait this one is a Commie, and Black, he must be a "Good Guy".

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    Economic collapse is the most possible "doomsday" scenario in the US, quickly matasticising into civil/ethnic strife, particularly in the cities. It is doubtful that any sector of the government or media would be able to effectively control such a long term affair. This has long been a nation of everybody for themself. Wealth preservation or the extreme lack of it is what motivates this populace, while nations and their political systems come and go.

    Barring any natural occuring or biological warfare vectored disease epidemics, it is less likely that the US would experience real hunger or intensive, sustained civil action outside of the cities due to our widespread agricultural resources and generally armed populace.

    Nuclear war is a tertiary concern and might actually thin down the planets population crisis because of and in spite of the fallout.

    Sadly, burying a steel drum full of supplies and ammo somewhere safe becomes more attractive all the time for city dwellers, but most of them will go down quickly and unprepared.

    Such an event would seem to benefit the extreme right in the long run, an outcome hardly more desirable than the current powers now possess on the extreme left.

    One thing is certain; nations around the world would rejoice at our demise, but it would probably concide with their own.

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