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    Hitler: With Islam Germans Would Have Conquered the World

    I mentioned this recently in the Shoutbox. I won't go into the details of what transpired when I did, but suffice it to say that this should in some measure correct the record.

    I'm unsure if the following is from Speer's Inside the Third Reich or his Spandau Diaries but it is from Speer. If pressed I can dig up the reference.

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...2&postcount=51

    ISLAM, A RELIGION COMPATIBLE FOR THE GERMANIC PEOPLES

    His conversations on a number of subjects were recorded by his closest confidants. One of these was Albert Speer, chief architect and Reich Minister of Armanents and Munitions, who quoted Hitler's regret the Germans accepted Christianity rather than religions which would have been more compatible to them:

    "Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking: 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?'

    "It is only with the Roman empire where one can say that culture was a factor under the government. The government of the Arabs in Spain too was infinitely distinguished: Many scientists, thinkers, astronomers, mathematicians, one of the most humane times, at the same time as a colossal knighthood. When, later, Christianity came there, then one can say: barbarians. The knighthood that the Castilians have is actually one of Arab heritage. If Charles Martel had not overcome in Poitiers: since the Jewish world already seized us - that Christianity is something well of insipid - we would have better received Mohammedanism, those doctrines of the reward of heroism-: combatants alone have the seventh heaven! With that the Germans would have conquered the world. It is only by Christianity that we have been held distant."

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    It's garbage Joe with more lies from liars like Speer. Same stuff as in the fraudulent Table Talk. Joe just can't help himself - he's probably genetically predisposed to lying.

    Anybody else really tired of this neo-cohen lying about NS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zogbot View Post
    It's garbage Joe with more lies from liars like Speer. Same stuff as in the fraudulent Table Talk. Joe just can't help himself - he's probably genetically predisposed to lying.

    Anybody else really tired of this neo-cohen lying about NS?
    Since you're reducing this to the gutter (again), I'll just note that you claimed this was from the Table Talk.

    You stand corrected.

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    I did no such thing. Learn to read. Speer is a known entity - a known liar to be precise. He said anything to not be hanged by the Allies. You cite liars. Therefore you are a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zogbot View Post
    I did no such thing. Learn to read. Speer is a known entity - a known liar to be precise. He said anything to not be hanged by the Allies. You cite liars. Therefore you are a liar.
    You claimed it was from the Table Talk in the Shoutbox yesterday, but I'm not going to get mixed up in a flame war over your religious beliefs.

    In Hitler we trust.

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    Dadgumit, read, buffoon, read! What I actually said in the shoutbox (which is a different thing than this particular, where you claim I just said that this Speer quote is from the TT, but I digress...) was that the same spurious dishonesty is also found in the TT.

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    When I read the thread title in the "5 newest posts" I knew immediately that Joe was the thread opener. Who else would post such a BS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zogbot View Post
    Dadgumit, read, buffoon, read! What I actually said in the shoutbox (which is a different thing than this particular, where you claim I just said that this Speer quote is from the TT, but I digress...) was that the same spurious dishonesty is also found in the TT.
    That isn't what you said.

    Nice try though. Please inform me when you conduct the next Hitler Church service. I'll be there with swastikas on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McCarthy View Post
    That isn't what you said.

    Nice try though. Please inform me when you conduct the next Hitler Church service. I'll be there with swastikas on.
    Sure enough. Tell me when you're attending the next bris, I'll bring the matzot balls and we can suckle on some jewish cuisine in the light of a foreskin removal

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    Joe, you're ridiculous. Please go and look for another board where you can troll around. We become tired of you *yawn*

    You see, we have no problem with people who reject Hitler or NS. It just seems that you have a problem with people who think that NS has a future. Without realising that this might even be true for America, while it must not be necessarily true for Europe.

    Still, you want to convert everyone to your religion. And that says basically, love the Jew, embrace christianity, humanitarianism incl. cultural marxism (hey you even quote your personal hero Stalin in your sig!) and just NEVER EVER even think about being a real nationalists.

    Seriously, we have no use for that...







    And btw, the thread title is a simple lie, and one of your obvious ones at that. It says "Hitler: With Islam Germans Would Have Conquered the World" when in truth (allegedly) Speer said it.

    Luckily, Speer hadnt ANY influence on inner policies in this regard. So whatever he said or said not, were pretty much irrelevant for the religious future of Germans.

    So the question begs asking: what is your intention to post such a thread, which an intentionally wrong and misleading thread title?
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