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    The Japanese belong to a different race and posses a different geist!
    Our beauty is our power, our strength. We can’t allow them to change us, to lessen us. I will never grant them that satisfaction, and neither should you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    The Japanese belong to a different race and posses a different geist!
    And? This is true however it conveniently ignores not only the unbecoming vulgarity of reducing any debate about race to materialistic interpretation but also context. Would you not ally yourself and your kin with a Japanese of strong and honourable character ahead of Germanics who insult our ancestral integrity?

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    I can definitely confirm that the japanese are very interested in germanic culture, and hold us in high regard compared to other ethnicities (their neighbours, the chinese, they see as subhuman, at least in the extrem,er circles). I think one large reason for this are that we share many virtues like punctuality (if in japan a train has more then 3 minutes delay the driver already has to make a written report about it, naming the reasons etc, and i am not talking subway here, i am talking trains between the big cities, 10-15 minutes can already cost you your job if there isnt a really good reason) , honor, diligance, business etc.etc.etc.

    Other countries around us do not have these typical germanic virtues, at least they are not as strong in them as they are in us. The same goes for the countries around japan. So naturally they are curious as to why we are so similar, despite the big distance betweeen us, and the little exchange we had with each other. In a way they see us as their european counterpart. I must admit, from all non european immigrants the japanese are the ones i think are best suited to fit into our culture.

    To all those that think that this started after world war II with the westernization of their culture, that is not the case. The similarities have always been there, and the fascination started MUCH MUCH earlier. One of the tennos (japanese emperor) realized that japan had at some point become stuck in its development, and so he tried to modernize and westernize his whole country with the typical japanese efficiency (he had 1000 km of railways build in just 3 years to give you just one example). He hired mostly british and german engineers.
    There won't be humans in 500 years. Enough people choke themselves when they jerk off we gave it a name. We ain't a species made to last.

    Judging by it´s name common sense must once have been a pretty common thing. When and why did that change, so it became the rare treasure it is today???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyn View Post
    I can definitely confirm that the japanese are very interested in germanic culture, and hold us in high regard compared to other ethnicities (their neighbours, the chinese, they see as subhuman, at least in the extrem,er circles). I think one large reason for this are that we share many virtues like punctuality (if in japan a train has more then 3 minutes delay the driver already has to make a written report about it, naming the reasons etc, and i am not talking subway here, i am talking trains between the big cities, 10-15 minutes can already cost you your job if there isnt a really good reason) , honor, diligance, business etc.etc.etc.

    Other countries around us do not have these typical germanic virtues, at least they are not as strong in them as they are in us. The same goes for the countries around japan. So naturally they are curious as to why we are so similar, despite the big distance betweeen us, and the little exchange we had with each other. In a way they see us as their european counterpart. I must admit, from all non european immigrants the japanese are the ones i think are best suited to fit into our culture.

    To all those that think that this started after world war II with the westernization of their culture, that is not the case. The similarities have always been there, and the fascination started MUCH MUCH earlier. One of the tennos (japanese emperor) realized that japan had at some point become stuck in its development, and so he tried to modernize and westernize his whole country with the typical japanese efficiency (he had 1000 km of railways build in just 3 years to give you just one example). He hired mostly british and german engineers.
    Japanese "in the extremer circles" often opposed modernisation as much as they opposed democratisation for example the warrior class during the staging of armed uprisings against the modernising Meiji government. Although during the twentieth century they came to reconcile the will to uphold tradition and culture with striving for innovation not dissimilarly to the critique of technology among conservative revolutionaries in Germany. I think the similarities between them and us run deeper than any apparent "westernisation": the utmost significance of family of the home their ethnocentricity their sense of community their sense of unity and too their notion of honour. Their expression of these virtues resonates more with our own geist than any hint of their being "western". The indigenous religion of Japan also bares some resemblance to Irminenschaft to its deification of ancestors and the natural world.

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    Ally myself with the Japanese who nearly invaded my country, killed my relations and ignobly mistreated Aussie, US etc prisoners of war. No chance!

    Their fascination with perversions like Hentai and Jap scat, slaughter of whales under the guise of scientific testing and atrocities in the Second World War is hardly endearing.


    Darling (2004) conducted an experiment involving Japanese women, in particular, those with a strong sense of culture and who would strongly critique what they saw in the media. The experimenter sat and talked with each of the Japanese women while they looked at Japanese fashion magazines. Caucasian models were presented the most in these magazines and the women who looked at these images all said that Caucasians are simply more attractive than the Japanese. Also, when the women rated themselves, it was discovered that they compared themselves to the western ideal. Most of the women said they wish they were taller and had larger eyes, for example (Darling, 2004).

    They owe much to their imitation of the West and restructuring under Western occupation.
    Our beauty is our power, our strength. We can’t allow them to change us, to lessen us. I will never grant them that satisfaction, and neither should you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vordringende View Post
    Japanese "in the extremer circles" often opposed modernisation as much as they opposed democratisation for example the warrior class during the staging of armed uprisings against the modernising Meiji government. Although during the twentieth century they came to reconcile the will to uphold tradition and culture with striving for innovation not dissimilarly to the critique of technology among conservative revolutionaries in Germany. I think the similarities between them and us run deeper than any apparent "westernisation": the utmost significance of family of the home their ethnocentricity their sense of community their sense of unity and too their notion of honour. Their expression of these virtues resonates more with our own geist than any hint of their being "western". The indigenous religion of Japan also bares some resemblance to Irminenschaft to its deification of ancestors and the natural world.
    You misunderstood me, i didnt say those virtues started in them with the westernization ! I said those similarities have always been there and are as deep rooted in their culture as they are in ours ! But their fascination with this similarity between us, and to find out why it exists, started with the westernization.
    What you say about the reasons sounds interesting and could indeed be a big factor in this. The japanese samurai ethos has indeed a lot in common with the norse warrior ethos, but again we must ask the question why that is so ?
    Do i understand that correctly that you live in japan atm ? May i ask on what island, how you got there and how long you live there already ? I am very much interested in japan and its culture, so i would love to ask you some questions every now and then if that is ok for you.



    btw now that i think about it, many anime series i have watched over the years have some connection to germany :
    1. Ghost in the shell has several episodes playing in frankfurt and berlin
    2. Elfenlied uses german and austrian classical music
    3. Full metal alchemist : the series has many innuendos to germany : german names, german cars etc.etc.etc. and the movie plays partially in germany. the same goes for full metal alchemist brotherhood

    etc. etc. They are almost always very positive, I can´t remember to have ever seen any negative stuff regarding germany. America on the other hand often gets attacked. Your typical american anime character is loudmouthed, naive, badly educated etc. German characters have no real stereotypes and are more character deep, but generally have positive traits. I also often discover motives from germanic sagas etc in anime series. So there is a great interest in dealing with german culture and analyzing it from their viewpoint or comparing it to japanese culture. They take great care not to fall for stereotypes but to really dive deeper into our culture so you get a meaningful analysis.
    There won't be humans in 500 years. Enough people choke themselves when they jerk off we gave it a name. We ain't a species made to last.

    Judging by it´s name common sense must once have been a pretty common thing. When and why did that change, so it became the rare treasure it is today???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    Ally myself with the Japanese who nearly invaded my country, killed my relations and ignobly mistreated Aussie, US etc prisoners of war. No chance!
    How is that not the same as saying there's no chance either you or others here will ally themselves with Germans who are as guilty as Japanese of killing British and Australian and American service-personnel?

    Save the hyperbole for the pub: even the most highly-regarded military historian in Australia has dismantled the infantile and inane delusion that the Japanese ever had any intention to "invade" Australia.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    Their fascination with perversions like Hentai and Jap scat, slaughter of whales under the guise of scientific testing and atrocities in the Second World War is hardly endearing.
    Whose fascination? Hentai which means "pervert" is an insult here and most Japanese think of its consumers and of consumers of porn of other degenerate commodities as dame ningen ("no-good people"). Yet porn has become so normalised in the West that your point might be funny were it not so sad. Are you aware of the fact that Australian males constitute the largest demographic of those who travel to South-East Asia to pay to have sex with underage girls? Is it fair to talk about Australians and their fascination with interfering with children?

    Norway continues to whale. Iceland continues to whale. The Faroe Islands continue to whale. Are their people also the subject of your contempt or is this just your idea of an inconsistent and incoherent tirade against the Japanese? Why is hunting these beasts and consuming their flesh "slaughter" but it's fine to "slaughter" cattle? Are you a vegetarian or just a moralising hypocrite who thinks their personal beliefs about what is or is not to be eaten ought to govern the dietary habits of the whole wide world? Were it up to me organisations like Sea Shepherd would have their members stood against a wall and shot for their behaviour.

    Australian and American service-personnel are also guilty of atrocities. It is well-documented that many of your country's soldiers raped scores of women scores of girls of girls often barely out of puberty in Allied-occupied Japan. Your approach to history mirrors that of those who go on and on about what the Germans did while conveniently ignoring what the Soviet Russians did (i.e. Axis=Evil; Allies=Good). And surely you're not suggesting that Germany never committed any atrocities during WWII to garner your contempt... apparently it's a sin for Japan to revise their role in WWII but others may revise their role as long as it doesn't upset your personal worldview.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    They owe much to their imitation of the West and restructuring under Western occupation.
    Living here it is laughable to hear or to read anyone suggest that the Japanese are imitating us irrespective of any trends that may or may not exist among some young women. It equates with implying that most white Australians and white Americans are imitating blacks because of the cultural trend to dress like them and imitate atrocious RnB "music". Japanese culture is deeply-rooted in their own indigenous traditions their own indigenous religion their own indigenous philosophies and their approach to modernity differs greatly to that of "the West" as it is today. Trends exist to show Westerners imitating "the East" particularly given the rising fascination with Eastern religion and esoterica but neither it nor the other constitutes any sort of mass-cultural paradigm that serves to threaten either's culture threaten either's ethnocentricity. I have not met one Japanese person who does not believe in race in their uniqueness as a people. I'm sure such people exist but a social study suggesting Japanese wish to be Westerners because of surveys of young women obsessed with what I wager is nothing more than US popular culture is intellectually-lazy at best and another example of the liberal and marxist ridiculousness of the bulk of contemporary academia. One might say most of your compatriots are obsessed with US popular culture and wish to be like them and reject their own ancestral integrity... it is a trend poisoning the whole wide world and it's hardly mature or rational to survey obsessive minorities to draw erroneous conclusion upon erroneous conclusion. Japan is one of the few if not the only nation state that openly rejects foreigners in some establishments and it is not uncommon to see signs stating that we are unwelcome and I respect this I respect the laws and the attitudes of my current host nation. It is also not uncommon to read or to hear openly anti-foreign sentiment in the newspapers or on the television on the streets even and whatever delusions Darling may or may not have I've certainly witnessed a lot of Japanese men in particular say they would never marry a Western woman. To assert the illusion that Japan has been "westernised" because of the prevalence of Western popular culture is to concede that the world entire has been well and truly irreparably Americanised... what might have once served to represent Australian culture is now well and truly on the decline. American popular culture aggressively invades your country with little to no resistance... do you hate Americans for trying to obliterate your ancestral integrity?

    I recommend you explore some cogent critiques of "the West" authored by Europeans who highlight the distinction between Europe and "the West" and also that you take more care with what you seem so quick to believe about a people you quite clearly know little or nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyn View Post
    You misunderstood me, i didnt say those virtues started in them with the westernization ! I said those similarities have always been there and are as deep rooted in their culture as they are in ours ! But their fascination with this similarity between us, and to find out why it exists, started with the westernization.
    What you say about the reasons sounds interesting and could indeed be a big factor in this. The japanese samurai ethos has indeed a lot in common with the norse warrior ethos, but again we must ask the question why that is so ?
    Do i understand that correctly that you live in japan atm ? May i ask on what island, how you got there and how long you live there already ? I am very much interested in japan and its culture, so i would love to ask you some questions every now and then if that is ok for you.
    Sincere apologies for any misunderstanding.
    Several ethnographers and anthropologists have highlighted the commonalities between the disposition of Germanic peoples and that of the Japanese people.
    I'm currently living in Tokyo working on recording music and investigating the similarities between Shinto and Germanic heathenry and have been doing so for almost two years. And of course I'm more than happy to speak with you from time to time about Japan about Japanese culture or about anything for that matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feyn View Post
    btw now that i think about it, many anime series i have watched over the years have some connection to germany :
    1. Ghost in the shell has several episodes playing in frankfurt and berlin
    2. Elfenlied uses german and austrian classical music
    3. Full metal alchemist : the series has many innuendos to germany : german names, german cars etc.etc.etc. and the movie plays partially in germany. the same goes for full metal alchemist brotherhood
    Interesting. I'm not too familiar with anime sorry but I've read quite a bit of Japanese literature both new and old and it too references German culture particularly classical music. There's a Japanese novelist writing in German and she has been the recipient of two awards which mark her contribution to German culture.
    The conductor Furtwängler although often the subject of contempt throughout "the West" due to association with Nazi Germany is lionised here in Japan... the largest record shop in the city has a large domineering portrait of him in his prime during the Third Reich and a prestigious record shop in Jimbocho has what must be one of the largest selections of any composer's work I've ever seen anywhere.

    For me Yukio Mishima exemplifies in every way the subject at hand because in spite of his admiration for the German for the European for "the West" he was in essence Japanese was in essence upholding Japanese culture and the ancestral integrity of the Japanese. He lived in a Western-style home dressed Western and listened to Western classical music but understood that the struggle against westernising Japan was deeper than any struggle against what are nothing more than commodities nothing more than a house than a wardrobe than a record and that the struggle was more about spirit more about character about what makes one what one is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autosomal Viking View Post
    Are you English or are you Japanese? Your lengthy defense of the Japanese and simultaneous scolding of The Aesthete seems to overshadow your shared blood bond.
    Would you defend Americans who insult your ancestral integrity? Every white guilty of miscegenation of promiscuity of homosexuality of paedophilia of rape or of other degenerate behaviour simply by virtue of their shared blood bond? And don't try and insult me with your frankly ridiculous question... people might just as easily as ask you if you're a man of honour or someone who thinks degenerates of your blood make better allies make better men than men of honour of any other culture no matter how honourable. I've now stated at least two or three times that I believe race is as metaphysical as it is biological and that I find it absurd to reduce it to materialistic interpretation... I don't owe The Aesthete or you or anyone anything no matter how pure their blood is if their behaviour is anything but honourable. My politics and principles reflect those of the European New Right who as stated earlier make a distinction between Europeans and Americans a distinction you're already shown you're uncomfortable with.

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