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    The special Florida prosecutor, Angela Corey, has charge George Zimmerman with second-degree murder. She emphasized that public opinion played no part in this decision. Well at least it is an Hispanic male who is being sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism, even if they (the power elite) won't admit he is not White.

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    Mike Tyson weighs in with his opinion on this controversy; someone (should have)/should kill Zimmerman before he is safe in prison: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html

    Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’
    By Dylan Stableford | The Lookout

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    Mike Tyson thinks that George Zimmerman deserves violent retribution for the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

    In an interview with Yahoo News about his upcoming one-man show in Las Vegas, the former heavyweight champion sounded off on the polarizing case:
    "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away.

    That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."

    In 1992, Tyson was convicted of raping Desiree Washington, a beauty pageant contestant, and served three years in prison.
    Read the full interview here.


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    It seems that legal scholars don't totally agree about this case.

    Apparently, the 'stand your ground' law grants rights to people who are involved in violent confrontations which they did not initiate. In addition to the normal standard of having to prove the defendant (Zimmerman) guilty 'beyond a reasonable doubt' on charges:

    Zimmerman can also avoid conviction by showing (I think, but am not sure, on a 'preponderance of evidence', 50%+) that Treyvon was the one who 'provoked' the encounter. It will depend on how they come to define 'provocation', and what exactly they come to believe happened, the exact chain of events.

    If Treyvon is determined to have provoked the encounter, by following Zimmerman back to his car and/or throwing a punch at him, then this law comes into play, and a judge can either throw the case out by ruling that Zimmerman is immune from prosecution under the law, or he can be found not guilty in court based on the law.

    If Zimmerman is determined to have provoked the encounter, THEN it reverts to normal Anglo-Saxon common law, whereby Zimmerman has a 'duty to flee' but still retains his normal rights to self defense if in fear of death or great bodily harm, for example if Treyvon is on top of him pummeling his head into the ground.

    Also, Zimmerman and Treyvon's respective former brushes with the law and school disciplinary systems will not be allowed to be mentioned, since such things are considered 'unfairly prejudicial' in the American justice system.

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    If the events leading up to the confrontation all remain the same but instead of using fists Martin uses a pocket knife and kills Zimmerman. Could Martin escape charges under the same law by telling the officer, he threatened him with a gun?
    Possibly. Martin would have to show in court that it is more likely than not that Zimmerman provoked the incident, and also produce evidence that Zimmerman threatened him with a gun. For example, if the gun is found in Zimmerman's hand or nearby, or if a witness reports seeing Zimmerman holding a gun before Martin produces his own weapon.

    It's hard to tell what will happen when the case goes to trial, but if Zimmerman gets a fair trial he shouldn't be convicted, unless there is evidence against him which has not yet been released to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ćmeric View Post
    The special Florida prosecutor, Angela Corey, has charge George Zimmerman with second-degree murder. She emphasized that public opinion played no part in this decision. Well at least it is an Hispanic male who is being sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism, even if they (the power elite) won't admit he is not White.
    No "public pressure" played any part in the Fl. prosecutor's decision to charge the mestizo. Yeah, right.
    The negro lynch mobs and controlled media pressure played no part at all in this case.
    Perhaps the woman has greater political ambitions and wishes to use this case to aggrandize herself in the name of "justice".
    Perhaps Fl. authorities are just worried what the negro savage mobs would do to that State and community if they didn't get "justice for Travon" and rioted as that racial group seems prone to do.
    I'm sure the "Fair and Impartial" jury will be heavily stacked with negroes. All in the name of Justice, of course.
    "Yet Thomas Jefferson’s interest in the Saxon heritage went far beyond matters of philology. He held that the forward movement of British settlement in North America was a continuation of the original migration of Hengist and Horsa. It was all part of the vigorous expansion of a superior group of people. Jefferson even went so far as to suggest that the form of government being adopted in the emerging United States represented a restoration of the sublime Anglo-Saxon principles..."

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    Zimmerman Family Challenges Holder on New Black Panthers

    Black run America gives us a "teachable moment"

    In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller, a family member of George Zimmerman asked the nation’s top law enforcement officer why he has chosen to not arrest members of the New Black Panther Party for their rhetoric — some of which may fit the federal government’s definition of a hate crime — throughout the Trayvon Martin case.

    The family member believes the reason Holder hasn’t made those arrests is because he, like the members of the New Black Panther Party, is black.



    “I am writing you to ask you why, when the law of the land is crystal clear, is your office not arresting the New Black Panthers for hate crimes?” the family member wrote to Holder.


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    Racist past haunts Florida town where Trayvon died

    SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - The year before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier by becoming the first African American to play major league baseball, he fled the racist threats of townspeople in Sanford, Florida, where Trayvon Martin was shot 66 years later.
    It was 1946 and Robinson arrived in this picturesque town in central Florida for spring training with a Brooklyn Dodgers farm team. He didn't stay long.
    Robinson was forced to leave Sanford twice, according to Chris Lamb, a professor at the College of Charleston in South Carolina, who wrote a graphic account of Robinson's brush with 100 angry locals in a 2004 book....
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    Date:
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    Human Events

    by Patrick J. Buchanan
    04/13/2012

    God save me from my friends; I can take care of my enemies.

    That thought must be coursing through the mind of President Obama right now as his White House rigs for silent running in the murder trial of George Zimmerman.

    Obama foolishly inserted himself into this volatile case weeks ago, and injected the issue of race. Expressing empathy with the family of Trayvon Martin, Obama flashed a signal of racial solidarity:

    "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

    Obama also implied that he shares the liberal perspective that America is a country where black kids must walk in daily fear of white racist vigilantes.

    "All of us have to do some soul-searching to figure out how does something like this happen. And that means that we examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident."

    Translation: The death of Trayvon tells us something is wrong with America.

    To most Americans, this is a slander against their country, refuted by the statistics on interracial crime. Obama, however, buys into it.

    Angela Corey, the special prosecutor, says that the charge against Zimmerman of second-degree murder was based on evidence and not influenced by the weeks of demonstrations, demands and threats from black leaders.

    Perhaps. But from what the pubic knows, a charge of second-degree murder, which carries a sentence of 25 years to life, does not seem to stand up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
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    Rest at the above link.
    Obongo, of course, has no legitamate constitutional grounds or business as U.S. president to stick his flat nose into this case. It is a local and State issue.
    The Great Beloved Leader and commissar comes from a racist "Black Power", "hate Whitey" background, of course, attending that racist negro church in Chicago for years until it was suddenly exposed and became somewhat politically inexpedient.
    The opportunistic and very inappropriate race-baiting statements in this case by Obongo are to drum-up the usual solid block of race-based black voters, etc.
    "Yet Thomas Jefferson’s interest in the Saxon heritage went far beyond matters of philology. He held that the forward movement of British settlement in North America was a continuation of the original migration of Hengist and Horsa. It was all part of the vigorous expansion of a superior group of people. Jefferson even went so far as to suggest that the form of government being adopted in the emerging United States represented a restoration of the sublime Anglo-Saxon principles..."

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    All of the facts and evidence, as well as the provisions of the "stand your ground" law, support Zimmerman's side of the story. Trayvon Martin became indignant over Zimmerman's questioning of his business in the neighbourhood - one of those "it's just because I'm black" routines - and attacked him while he was complying with the request to cease pursuit. Witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, repeatedly striking him, and the latter's injuries (broken nose, cuts to the back of his head, and grass stains on his shirt) corroborate that element. If the witnesses are wavering, or suddenly seem unreliable, it's likely due to them fearing backlash or mob retaliation for supporting Zimmerman. Furthermore, Martin was found on his back, indicating that he was shot from the front (where one is likely to be shot while straddling and assaulting a victim who has a firearm).

    It's clear that Zimmerman will not get a fair trial, even if solely down to the authorities' fear of black mobilization following anything but a guilty verdict. Failure to go to trial, or a judgement of innocence, will elicit a black uprising which will put the Rodney King/LA Riots to shame. The plus side is that it will make evident the perpetuation of African barbarism in America to the general population.

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    The Daily Bell

    Zimmerman's Apology?
    Saturday, April 21, 2012 – by Tibor Machan

    The shooter of Trayvon Martin is now said by many to have apologized. All over the media this is being reported, even on Fox TV news, even though he did nothing of the sort.

    To apologize implies that one is taking responsibility for something bad. One cannot apologize for a rained out picnic but can for failing to provide umbrellas. What Mr. Zimmerman said in court on Friday April 20 is this: "I am sorry for the loss of your son." And who wouldn't be? Saying this doesn't at all imply that Zimmerman, accused of murdering Mr. Martin, admitted guilt. He, like anyone who grasps the loss of Mr. Martin's parents, expressed his sorrow.

    But by characterizing it as an apology, news reporters implicate Mr. Zimmerman in confessing to murder, which he certainly didn't do.

    I have no stake in this at all. I don't know if Mr. Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter, murder, negligent homicide, or killing someone in self defense. What I do know is that what he said in court on Friday does not amount to a confession. Let's get this straight.*

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