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    Wodens Folk

    A few days ago I came across this random website while doing some research on Heathenry. It's called Wodens Folk and claims to be Folkish Heathenry organization dedicated to the spiritual awakening of the English Anglo-Saxon people. I'd like to hear your opinion on the group. What are you're thoughts on it?

    http://wodensfolk.org.uk/woden.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geroth View Post
    A few days ago I came across this random website while doing some research on Heathenry. It's called Wodens Folk and claims to be Folkish Heathenry organization dedicated to the spiritual awakening of the English Anglo-Saxon people. I'd like to hear your opinion on the group. What are you're thoughts on it?

    http://wodensfolk.org.uk/woden.htm
    Being agnostic, as soon as the website started talking about prophecy, I switched off. I can never take any movement seriously that starts talking about predictions, prophecy and a "Hooded man" coming to re-claim England. I have never actually read the Norse myths so I dont know how accurate it all is with the lore so I wouldn't like to comment but other than that however, it seems like a descent movement. I found more information from the "English Movement" tab on the side. I think this could be what people in England need.

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    This sounds like a lot of UPG with very little lore to back it up to me. Nothing wrong with that if you agree with the UPG.

    That said, from a more critical stand point the whole idea of a redeeming/avenging son sounds very Christian-influenced to me. I know a similar idea does occur in the story of Ragnarok, but I feel it seems fairly clear in the story (which might not be 100% non christian influenced) that the arrival of a new pantheon will not occur until the destruction of Midgard, which since more humans than are ever are at least nominally alive, doesn't seem to have happened yet.

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    I also notice he uses the "white dragon of England" symbol, a complete myth with no evidence outsde the pages of Geoffrey of Monmouth to back it up at all.

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    I judge a book by its cover, or in this case a website by it's home page. It's got the cool dragon on the top, and the animated .gif of an English flag at the bottom. The whole thing says 14 year old kid in his basement using geocities.

    I will say I am happy for what his is perpetrating, but he has to make it look a bit more professional to get some sort of credence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    I also notice he uses the "white dragon of England" symbol, a complete myth with no evidence outsde the pages of Geoffrey of Monmouth to back it up at all.
    It is not just Geoffrey of Monmouth that discusses the Red and White Dragons but this story can also be found in Nennius's Historia Brittonum in the early 9th century CE. This is clearly an ancient myth and the Welsh are unlikely to have fabricated the symbolism. The White Dragon symbol was revived by Wulf Ingessunu (Founder of Woden's Folk) in the 1980s and has become a prominent symbol in the English Awakening.

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    The wodensfolk.org.uk address is not valid anymore , it seems ...

    Google Search brought a website hosted by blogspot.com :
    https://wodensfolk.blogspot.com/

    What is astonishing , is , that the above website uses a Wolf inside of
    some leaf-circle as Emblem , and additionally a so-called "Wolfsangel" ,
    that actually should have been a trapping device to at least harm Wolves ,
    if not killing Wolves :
    Meat had been wrapped around the Wolfsangel , and this bait had been hung
    from a tree a few feet about ground level , so any wolf trying to catch the bait
    with his fangs , might have found himself hooked with Iron in his mouth ,
    and in such situation might have been unable to free himself -- kind of hung .


    This apparent scizophrenia , using a wolf and a wolf-killing device as emblems speaks
    some hints about the knowledge of these Wodenist Activists .

    One webpage about wodensfolk is found at rationalwiki :
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Woden%27s_Folk
    Woden's Folk is an English neo-Nazi cult which believes Adolf Hitler to have been a reincarnation of the god Woden.[3] It was apparently started on April 23rd 1998 after its founder Wulf Ingessunu (who can't decide whether to spell his name "Ingessunu" or "Ingesunnu", bless) claimed to have "a series of mystical experiences centred around the appearance of the Hale Bopp comet in 1997".[4]
    ...
    The group claims not to be Odinist or Wodenist. "Our reformed religion is based upon the essence of our ancient Folk-Religion, but recreated in a new form suited to the times that we live in today", it says. "This is why we call our faith the Woden Folk-Religion rather than just 'Wodenism'".[5] However, the group's sister site, English Movement, refers to Woden's Folk as "the leading Wodenist Movement here in England".[6]
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Woden%27s_Folk



    Some sentences of wikipedia about the Chinese Dragon ,
    with a sentence describing the Wolf as symbol of the Mongols :
    ... the wolf may be used by the Mongols as it is considered to be their legendary ancestor.[2][5][8]
    ...
    The presence of dragons within Chinese culture dates back several thousands of years with the discovery of a dragon statue dating back to the fifth millennium BC from the Yangshao culture in Henan in 1987,[10] and jade badges of rank in coiled form have been excavated from the Hongshan culture circa 4700-2900 BC.[11]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_dragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe Jens Lornsen View Post
    The wodensfolk.org.uk address is not valid anymore , it seems ...

    Google Search brought a website hosted by blogspot.com :
    https://wodensfolk.blogspot.com/

    What is astonishing , is , that the above website uses a Wolf inside of
    some leaf-circle as Emblem , and additionally a so-called "Wolfsangel" ,
    that actually should have been a trapping device to at least harm Wolves ,
    if not killing Wolves :
    Meat had been wrapped around the Wolfsangel , and this bait had been hung
    from a tree a few feet about ground level , so any wolf trying to catch the bait
    with his fangs , might have found himself hooked with Iron in his mouth ,
    and in such situation might have been unable to free himself -- kind of hung .


    This apparent scizophrenia , using a wolf and a wolf-killing device as emblems speaks
    some hints about the knowledge of these Wodenist Activists .

    One webpage about wodensfolk is found at rationalwiki :
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Woden%27s_Folk

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Woden%27s_Folk



    Some sentences of wikipedia about the Chinese Dragon ,
    with a sentence describing the Wolf as symbol of the Mongols :

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_dragon
    This is the current link to Woden's Folk: https://wodensfolk.blogspot.com/
    The Wolfshook is used as a symbol of the spirit of resistance to the anti-English and anti-Germanic Zionist government of the United Kingdom. It is also a symbol of the God of the Coming Age-Widar who is Woden reborn. The 'leaf circle' are oak leaves, an ancient Germanic symbol.
    Rational Wiki is not worth reading-it is Antifa.
    Do not confuse the White Dragon of the English with the Chinese dragon or you will end up hopelessly confused!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    This is the current link to Woden's Folk: https://wodensfolk.blogspot.com/
    The Wolfshook is used as a symbol of the spirit of resistance to the anti-English and anti-Germanic Zionist government of the United Kingdom. It is also a symbol of the God of the Coming Age-Widar who is Woden reborn. The 'leaf circle' are oak leaves, an ancient Germanic symbol.
    Rational Wiki is not worth reading-it is Antifa.
    Do not confuse the White Dragon of the English with the Chinese dragon or you will end up hopelessly confused!
    Widar can't be Woden , except if Woden would be some other spelling for With-Aar ,
    and Woden would not be Odin .

    These are 12 Zodic Constellations , and Scorpio being Uller .
    Anybody not able to navigate at night time , should not be admitted as priest !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe Jens Lornsen View Post
    Widar can't be Woden , except if Woden would be some other spelling for With-Aar ,
    and Woden would not be Odin .

    These are 12 Zodic Constellations , and Scorpio being Uller .
    Anybody not able to navigate at night time , should not be admitted as priest !
    The concept of Woden reborn in His son Widar is central to our teachings:

    Taken from my Celto-Germanic Culture, Myth and History blogs:http://celto-germanic.blogspot.com/2010/11/wid-ar.html


    Taken from the website of Woden`s Folk

    The New God form

    The new religion of Wodenism is named after the All-Father, Woden, yet in reality the god that we see as being the archetype of the New Age is Widar. The name Widar is usually rendered Forest Warrior which is the title of this article. Widar is seen as a Woodland God, but the warrior bit is usually glossed over – maybe too fierce for certain “humanitarian” pagans!
    When using the title we will write it as Wid-Ar which is a breakdown of the title into its two sections of meaning –
    Wid – forest, woodland: this is the Old English wudu and is the basis of the name Widukind which could be rendered Forest Kind or Woodland Kind.

    Ar – this is a very interesting title since the term “warrior” does not fully cover it. The Root AR is the root of the term Aryan but even this does not render a full meaning. The term Aryan has the same root as certain other words which will give a clue as to the true meaning –

    Here/heri/harry/herian/heriar/herle/herjan/har/hari etc.

    The Root AR is related to all of the terms used for the Germanic Männerbünd and the concept of the Wild Warrior of the Wilderness. This is a very interesting concept in view of the roots of Wodenism.

    Wid-Ar is the son of Woden and the brother of Wali. It is Wid-Ar who slays the Fenris Wolf at Ragnarok and becomes the High God of the New Order. Widar was the son of Woden and Grid and he represents the imperishable forces of Nature.

    Widar followed Woden to the Fountain of Wyrd where the three Sisters of Wyrd uttered the following prophecy –

    “Early begun.”
    “Further spun.”
    “One day done.”

    To this the Goddess of Fate added – “With joy once more won.” The Goddess explains that even though Woden will fall in the Last Battle Wid-Ar would be his avenger, and he would live to rule over a regenerated world after having conquered his enemies.

    Woden falls at Ragnarok, slain by the Fenris Wolf. But it is Widar who avenges him by placing his foot with its Iron Shoe (some say leather) in the gaping jaws and wrenching them apart. This act could only be done to release the Spirit of Woden – for Woden reappears in the New Order as Widar.
    At one level the Fenris Wolf represents rampant technology which has overwhelmed our Folk and wrenched them away from their true Gods. We live in the Wolf-Age which is an age of decay, degeneration and destructive powers.

    Today Wid-Ar is the Silent God for he sits silent on his throne in Landwidi, awaiting his time at Ragnarok. When his time comes he will be Wid-Ar the Avenger – avenger of Woden and God of Regeneration and Renewal.

    The Hooded Man Prophecy is all about the coming of Wid-Ar, for is not the figure of Robin Hood the Forest Warrior? In the Root AR we may also see the name of Herne whose name could well derive from this root. Robin Hood is the Forest Warrior and his father is Woden-Herne – the One-Eyed Hunter-God.

    Wid-Ar has certain things in common with the Egyptian god Horus –

    1.
    Horus is an Avenging God.
    2.
    Horus is also known as the Silent God.
    3.
    The name Heru (the Egyptian for Horus) is very much like our here/heri/herian etc.
    4.
    Horus, like Wid-Ar is the avenger of the death of his father.
    5.
    Added to these we have a Germanic God named Saxnot revered by the East Saxons; an alternative name for this god was Cheru or Heru – the Sword-God. It is to be noted that Wid-Ar wielded a sword.

    The symbol for Horus is a Falcon or Hawk; it is also to be noted that in some legends Horus has only one eye. It is also significant that the symbol for Horus is an eye – the Eye of Horus. It is perhaps significant that Gawain is also associated with the Hawk, and that Parsifal has the role of restorer and the renewal of Nature. Parsifal seems to be a later version of Gawain.

    One legend has it that the Sons of Ivalde (Wade) had united their efforts in forging the Sword of Cheru. This is the most famous sword wielded by Ætla the Hun. It is thus not really strange to recall the name Cheru or Heru as being that of the original name for Horus.

    The Greek version of Horus rides on a Ram, and this is the symbol of Hama. The alternative name for Wid-Ar is Ing, for this is the Age of Ing or the Age of the Crowned and Avenging Son of the Sun. That this infers a return to an age of wildness and barbarism is clear from this god being the Woodland Warrior, and the archetype being related to the figure of Robin Hood, an outlaw, and a “Wolf’s Head”.

    The fundamental difference between Wodenism and that of Asatru, Odinism, and Wotanism is that the former is based upon the rejection of the Hanged God in all his forms, including that of Odin. In our own Wodenic Lore – connected to the new Age of Ing – we recognize a new and virile archetype or god-form, that of Wid-Ar the Avenging Son. Wid-Ar is Woden, who has descended from the Tree of Woe, “swallowed” by the Wolf’s Jaws, and is reborn as Wid-Ar whose archetype is a Crowned God, wielding a Flaming Sword, and wiping away all that is rotten and degenerate upon the Earth.

    http://inglinga.blogspot.com/2015/10...-of-woden.html
    This work resulted from a number of points raised by Wotan's Krieger which are of extreme importance to the study that we have done on Wid-Ar who is the archetype of the new world-age – the ‘Age of the Son’. The figure of Wid-Ar is not well known and has been seen as a god of the future by many Odinists. Within Wodenism we see Wid-Ar as being the resurrection of Woden after he is swallowed by the Fenris Wolf.


    The points that Wulf Veldasson made originated from ideas by George Dumezil who sees Wid-Ar as a very ancient Indo-European archetype linked to Vishnu, through the prefix ‘Vi-‘. Whether the fact that the two gods have the same prefix for their name links them in any way is highly debatable, but they do seem to be the same archetype. Dumezil seems to think that Wid-Ar is –




    • Aligned with vertical space since he has his hands on the lower and upper wolf’s jaws, and horizontal space due to the wide steps he makes and his strong shoe.
    • Keeps the wolf from destroying the cosmos, i.e. he is the ancient god who appears at the right time to save the cosmos from destruction.


    Wid-Ar is the ‘Silent Ase’ and the ‘Avenging Ase’ and Dumezil equates his silence with that of a ritual silence undertaken prior to an act of vengeance. He is also known as Wid-Ar the Avenger. He is nearly as strong as the god Thunor and the gods rely upon him at times of immense difficulties.


    Woden and Wid-Ar visited the three Wyrd Sisters in order to seek Wid-Ar’s fate. The three sisters answered thus –


    ‘Early begun!’
    ‘Further spun!’
    ‘One day done!’


    Wyrd, the Primaeval Goddess of Fate, added -


    ‘With joy once more won!’


    They learned that the circling ages roll on and change, past, present, future, passing away and beginning again. When the All-Father falls on Vigrid he is resurrected as his son Wid-Ar. Wid-Ar the Silent is the Avenging God and the God of Victory, for it is he that brings the renewal of nature and ushers in a new Golden Age.


    The Myth of Wid-Ar tells us that Woden wed Grid who was a giantess living in a cave in a desert. The offspring of their union was Wid-Ar which tells us that he represents the union of Woden (Spirit) and Grid (Matter), and that he is incarnated into matter in order to avenge the Gods and Folk. He is the Forest Warrior who personifies the primaeval forests and the imperishable forces of nature. He lived in Landvivi (‘Wide-Land’) within the primaeval forest where deep silence and solitude ruled.


    He wields a sword and is shod with either an iron or leather shoe, depending upon accounts we have given down to us. It is said that Grid gave him his iron shoe, but other accounts tell that his shoe was made of scraps of leather discarded by shoe-makers. Whatever the case the shoe needed to be strong enough to withstand the jaws of the Fenris Wolf. This, then is his prime role, to rip open the jaws of Fenris and allow the Spirit of Woden to escape destruction.


    He is the symbol of resurrection and renewal which is the vital force that we need today in our dying world. It should be noted that both Wali and Wid-Ar are gods born for the sole purpose of vengeance, Wali to avenge Baldaeg and Wid-Ar to avenge Woden. Wali’s Day is now called ‘St, Valentine’s Day’ where he is remembered as a God of Lovers, his true role having been distorted through time. Since ‘St. Valentine’s Day’ falls on February 14th this is his time of the year; he is followed by Wid-Ar whose time is around the Spring Equinox, for he heralds the New Dawn of the Cycle.


    We have used the unusual spelling ‘Wid-Ar’ because this best suits our own Wodenic Lore since it can be broken into two parts, each of which tell us much more about this god – Wid – this can mean ‘wide’ which refers to his being the ‘Wide-Strider’ which links him to Orion the Hunter whom the Egyptians called the ‘Wide-Strider’. It can also be seen as ‘widu’ which means ‘woodland’, for he is the Woodland God and the Woodland Warrior. The Old English *wid or *wit means ‘wise’ and gave rise to the term ‘witan’. This root is also connected to the term ‘veda’ which means ‘wisdom’. It is quite possible that the famous Saxon Hero, Widukind (Wittekind), was the ‘Child of Wid-Ar’ and the ‘White Child’, for *wit could also be seen as ‘white’. This is the 'White Rider'.


    Wid – ‘to see’, ‘to know’.
    - ‘to pierce’, ‘to perforate’.
    - ‘to break through’
    From these meanings we can see that he is a god that ‘knows’, he is a God of Knowledge like his father Woden. He is also able to break through and penetrate which tells us that he is the god who breaks down barriers and forces his way through obstacles. Only Thunor is said to match him in his strength. There is a root-word sequence connected to his name –


    Wad Wed Wid Wod Wud

    Ar – This root-word of our word Arya which came to mean ‘noble’ but originally referred to the ‘Shining Ones’ or ‘Solar Race’. The root *ar- or *ari refers to ‘movement’ and thus to the Life-Force of the Gods and Life-Force of the Cosmos. The root-words ar, ara, ari, har, hari, harri, hara heri, here, heru, hero etc. are all connected to the term Arya.











    The Old English widre means ‘to withstand’, i.e. ‘resistance’ and this is an ideal meaning of this god who is the ‘God of Resistance’. This is also true of the German ‘widder’ which means ‘resistance’, and can also mean ‘ram’. Wid-Ar comes under the zodiacal constellation of Aries the Ram which is around March - April, covering the Spring Equinox as we have already stated. This also links him to Hama-Heimdall who is associated with the Ram and with Aries. There may also be a link to the pairing of Wudga and Hama, Wudga is the Witega of German Legend. Here is another link to this god as a god of foresight, seeing and wisdom, since the Old English witega refers to a ‘seer’ or ‘prophet’.


    Certain German words related to 'widder' mean 'to return' and when we use the term 'widdershins' it means 'returning' rather than just 'anti-clockwise' or 'backwards'. This widdershins Swastika is thus the Swastika of Return. This is 'He Who Returns' - the god who returns at the start of a new Cosmic Cycle, as the Manu of the coming cycle.


    Wid-Ar is usually seen as slaying the Fenris Wolf by ripping open the jaws of the wolf, but in another account he plunges a weapon into the heart of the wolf. The term ‘sword’ is not used for this but is usually taken to be so, though the weapon could have been a spear. Widukind is usually seen as wielding a spear.


    The ‘Greater Wolf’s Jaws’ are an Old Saxon constellation which centred around Andromeda, and the semi-circle of stars from Pegasus to Cygnus the Swan. The Greater Wolf’s Jaws faces across at the Pole Star, threatening the stability of the Cosmos; it also centres round the Dark Rift which is the ‘womb’ of the Milky Way and the Galactic Centre.
    We have seen how Dumezil linked Wid-Ar to vertical space and horizontal space, and this may well be true in view of his being born of the giantess Grid, for a ‘grid’ is made up of vertical and horizontal lines. Indeed, the ‘grid’ seems to be associated with the Dragon Force that pulses through what is usually called the ‘Ley-Lines or Dragon-Lines.


    We can compare Wid-Ar with the Egyptian god named Horus (Greek) or Heru (Egyptian). Horus is a ‘God of Silence’ (shown on the cover) and a ‘God of Vengeance’ (he avenges the death of his father). We must first look at the Myth of Horus in order to further understand the nature of Wid-Ar, and to understand his role as ‘The Avenger’.


    There are various different accounts of the ‘Royal Myth’ which concerns Horus and Set, and the form varies considerably within these. The one account that is favoured over the others has Set slaying his brother Osiris, and Horus being born to avenge his father. This is the one that we shall look at here.


    Osiris is slain by his brother Set whose name is perhaps related to ‘Surt’ meaning ‘Black’ and who is a desert-god whose role is rather destructive; he is sometimes seen as being linked to Apophis the Destroyer who is the enemy of Ma’at (Cosmic Order). Osiris is a culture-hero who brings the arts of agriculture, just like Scef, and who is usually associated with the constellation of Orion the Hunter.


    In this main account Set binds Osiris and slays him, cutting his body into 14 pieces which are scattered across the land of Egypt. Isis and Nephthys, sisters of Osiris, mourn his death and Isis searches far and wide to find the 14 pieces of Osiris which have been scattered around the land. In the name of Nut, mother of Osiris, Isis revives her brother with various magical incantations. Isis places herself upon the Phallus of Osiris and is impregnated with his seed, from which is produced the son Horus who ‘was in Sothis’, this being the Greek name for Sirius which in Egyptian was ‘Sepdet’ which means ‘The Pointed One’.


    In the battle between Horus and Set, Horus loses his eyes and Set his testacles, both regaining these afterwards. Horus gives his lost eye, now regained, back to Osiris that he ‘may become mighty before the Glorious Ones’. The Eye of Horus’, given to Osiris, is called the ‘Opener of the Way’. In this Horus, like Woden, sacrifices an eye, Horus to Osiris and Woden to Mimir. Osiris is avenged by Horus through the slaying of Set.


    There are certain things that we should remember here, for Horus the Child is just one aspect of the figure known as Horus, for before the coming of Menes (who is Manu who appears prior to the Great Flood) an ancient master-race known as the Shemsu Hor (‘Followers of Horus’) ruled over Egypt. This dates back to pre-dynastic times and is an extremely ancient legend. The figure of Horus appears to be very like that of The Divine Fool since his father is slain by his uncle, and it is he who avenges the father. The Eye of Horus is a very strong symbol in Egypt and its connection to Woden is obvious.


    It is also very important to note that Set is shorn of his testacles, i.e. he is made barren and unable to procreate. This is similar to the figure of Amfortas who is wounded in the ‘thigh’, and also to certain types of ‘Satanic’ figure who are ‘clipped’ between the thighs. In another version of the ‘Royal Myth’ Set is seen to be ‘from the marshes’ whereas Horus is the ‘Divine Child’ with the Sun-Disc on his forehead. There is also something that I discovered whilst studying the subject of Horus and Set, and that fits into symbolism used for the closing ceremony of the 2012 ‘Olympic Games’. In this account Set shape-changes into a hippopotamus which is the animal seen being ridden by ‘Britannia’ in the 2012 propaganda. It would seem obvious that the Occult Forces that were behind this propaganda linked their work to the god Set who the Egyptians saw as being the Lord of Chaos and Destruction. This is perhaps paralleled by the figure of Set being linked to an ass which was the steed of ‘Jesus’ and always symbolic of the downtrodden ‘masses’.









    We have already seen how Set was equated with the ‘marshes’ and it is thus interesting to note that the Fenris Wolf can be seen as the ‘Wolf of the Fens’ or ‘marshes’. If we see the symbolism of the hippopotamus (Set) being ridden by ‘Britannia’ then perhaps we can see the triumph of Set over ‘Woden’s Isle’ (Merlin’s Isle). Or put another way the ‘Wolf of the Fens’ devouring the god Woden!


    Woden is the ancient God of our Folk, and his so-called ‘death’ at the hands of the Fenris Wolf is in reality the key to his resurrection in a young and virile form. The ‘ageing god’ – Woden – is resurrected as his son, Wid-Ar the Avenger. The Spirit of Woden has been reborn in the form of his son – Wid-Ar the Avenger, a young warrior-god and as strong and mighty as the god Thunor. This is a very ancient archetype that appears in times of cosmic destruction; Dumezil equates him with Vishnu which is interesting to us in that Vishnu is the one god that incarnates upon earth as an avatar at various times during the Cycle of the Ages. It is the god Woden who incarnates upon Earth in the guise of his son, Wid-Ar who is the Avenging God and the Last Avatar known by the Hindus as the Kalki Avatar and by Wodenists as HelgiH – the Cosmic Spirit 88.


    It would seem clear that this symbolism of the god Woden being slain and resurrected would have to be played out in the Cosmic Myth as an Archetypal Myth prior to the resurrection of Wid-Ar the Avenger. In an ancient Egyptian Ritual an iron ritual tool is used to rip open the jaws of the dead Pharaoh; this ritual is designed to allow the spirit of the Pharaoh (who represents Osiris) to escape and become a 'star', the spirit being resurrected as Horus the Avenger. Here we can see the same 'ritual' in the ripping open of the Wolf's Jaws by Wid-Ar, allowing the Spirit of Woden to escape and thus resurrect within his son.


    In the Norse Eddas Snorri Sturlasson equates Wid-Ar with Aeneas which is very interesting. It has to be said that Snorri makes the Norse Gods into humans and equates them with Troy. It was very fashionable at one time to feel that Troy was the cradle of various royal lines, but we cannot dismiss all of these accounts as being false. What we need to remember is that Troy fell at the hands of the Greeks and as in many other defeats there would have been a number of survivors who escaped and wandered into other lands, seeking later fame for themselves and their race. This could certainly have happened with the defeat of Troy.


    What is interesting in Snorri’s seeing Wid-Ar as the Greek Aeneas is that this Trojan Hero was the son of the goddess Aphrodite (Venus) and escaped the flames of Troy carrying his blind father, leading his own war-band to wander through various lands until they reached Italy. According to Virgil (‘The Aenead’) the descendants of Aeneas were Romulus and Remus who were the founders of Rome, and had the Wolf as their Tribal Totem. The Roman Empire, according to this account, was a direct descendant of the Trojans under Aeneas. We cannot tell how much truth there is in this, nor in Snorri’s assertions.


    In the Vedic Tradition there is the triple-godhead of Brahma (Creator), Vishnu (Preserver) and Rudra-Shiva (Destroyer) and if Wid-Ar is the equivalent of Vishnu then he comes as the ‘preserver’ and as the Kalki Avatar in his final incarnation of this cycle. We can see from this that Wid-Ar is not a ‘minor’ god of any kind, nor is he a god of some future age, for he is Woden reborn into his ‘Son’ – the ‘Son of the Sun’.



    In one aspect Wid-Ar is The Hidden God which relates to HelgiH who is The Hallowed One and The Hidden One. He is the god that at this time is ‘hidden’ from view and whose ‘silence’ is like the calm before the storm – ready to break upon the world like a hurricane. He is the God of Resistance whose symbol is the Wolf-Hook Rune which is the Symbol of Resistance.

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