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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Haven't seen that one before, but it looks the part.

    A more classic hipster bicycle:



    If it's missing handbrakes, and can only brake by pedaling backwards, one gets extra hipster points.
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    Bleaks, I don't like hipsters... I prefer the hippies!

    Let's get back to the 60s!

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    Honestly, I really enjoyed reading Fritjof Capra, he's one of the greatest scientists of our times! And besides the previous quoted essay, in one of his books (one of the older ones) he describes how he lived in the 60s, part time as a post doctoral researcher and part time living the life of the counterculture, and hitchhiking with his sleeping bag... It's funny, he said no one who was taking him while hitchhiking would have thought he had a PhD... He wrote that he lived all the facets of the counterculture...

    And... who doesn't like Pink Floyd or The Beatles?



    Fritjof Capra says that

    The 1960s were the period of my life during which I experienced the most profound and most radical personal transformation. For those of us who identify with the cultural and political movements of the sixties, that period represents not so much a decade as a state of consciousness, characterized by “transpersonal” expansion, the questioning of authority, a sense of empowerment, and the experience of sensuous beauty and community.

    This state of consciousness reached well into the seventies. In fact, one could say that the sixties came to an end only in December 1980, with the shot that killed John Lennon. The immense sense of loss felt by so many of us was, to a great extent, about the loss of an era. For a few days after the fatal shooting we relived the magic of the sixties. We did so in sadness and with tears, but the same feeling of enchantment and of community was once again alive. Wherever you went during those few days — in every neighborhood, every city, every country around the world — you heard John Lennon’s music, and the intense idealism that had carried us through the sixties manifested itself once again...

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    I agree he also served some other interests at some point... but let's take the good part out of it!

    He made some great songs, beside other things... and he was killed because he annoyed someone with his activism. Someone... we know who...

    By the way, I was told a few times that I look a bit like John Lennon, it was a compliment and I took it accordingly.

    Left or right on politics is kind of tricky... National socialists were seen as leftists in the beginning... but things change... Also, the first greens were national socialists, already on the right side, but now the greens are seen as leftists... These things are very relative and very debatable... I don't put things into boxes like that.
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    The 1960s were the period of my life during which I experienced the most profound and most radical personal transformation. For those of us who identify with the cultural and political movements of the sixties, that period represents not so much a decade as a state of consciousness, characterized by “transpersonal” expansion, the questioning of authority, a sense of empowerment, and the experience of sensuous beauty and community. This state of consciousness reached well into the seventies. In fact, one could say that the sixties came to an end only in December 1980, with the shot that killed John Lennon.
    Hmm, I try not to get too mystical when discussing these things but there’s a semblance of truth to the above.

    Even though I wasn’t an (active) part of the hippy era there was still something in the air well into the mid/late 70’s. I went to discos and concerts that had a definite hippy 'feel’ to them and the scenes at Knebworth in 1979 (where Led Zeppelin headed the bill) could just as easily have been from a decade earlier ...


    The shooting of John Lennon provides a convenient watershed date but things were already on the slide by then with the advent of New Wave/Punk music. I often wonder how we went from the hippies to the punks in such a relatively short space of time, and then no sooner had the punks departed than we had the ‘New Romantic’ era, which again was the polar opposite. There’s no logical sequence here, either musically or culturally.

    Like I say, the author of the above piece is going a bit overboard but the 60’s and 70’s were interesting times for one reason or another. Looking back, all the crass materialism of today probably vindicates what many of the hippies were saying and this seemed to start in the early 80’s when music became uncreative and formulaic as the people themselves mutated into dull PC clones. I’m sure this was no mere coincidence.

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    Hippies, hipsters and bugmen. It just goes to show when you believe in nothing you end up believing in everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    As a Pagan I can identify with them to some extent. Probably less so as a National Socialist, but then isn't there a degree of contradiction in all of us? I just find there was something very Germanic about the whole movement which, at this late hour, I can only vaguely define but - on a superficial level - it was 99% White, which is not a bad place to start
    The 60's Hippie Movement can partly be traced back to Germany;

    "In the late 1800s and early 1900s the German Lebensreform movement emphasized the goodness of nature, the harms to society, people, and to nature caused by industrialization, the importance of the whole person, body and mind, and the goodness of "the old ways".[3][4][5]:32–33[6] The German youth movement known as Der Wandervogel grew out of Lebensreform as a countercultural reaction to the organized social and cultural clubs that centered on German folk music. In contrast to these formal clubs, Wandervogel emphasized amateur music and singing, creative dress, and communal outings involving hiking and camping.[7] Inspired by the works of Friedrich Nietzsche, Goethe, Hermann Hesse, and Eduard Baltzer, Wandervogel attracted thousands of young Germans who rejected the rapid trend toward urbanization and yearned for the pagan, back-to-nature spiritual life of their ancestors."

    Wikipedia: History of the Hippie Movement



    I don't think I've ever met an actual hippie from the 60s, but I've had my fair share of experience with what I would describe as 'modern new-age hippies'. Their antics are pretty much the same. Preaching unconditional love and peace, and having a liberal relationship to sexuality and drugs, but lacking a clear political profile, which seems to have received a greater focus in the 60s. All in all, I think their heart is in a good place, but they seem to be heavily misguided.

    What sometimes gets to my nerves about many of these people, is their kind of free-loading attitude. Most of them just want to get through life with the least amount of personal contribution, and the greatest amount of childish carelessness. They can preach for hours about how everything about modern society is morally wrong, but have no restraints in leeching off of the very system they're supposedly opposed to. The dream of having their own small-scare farming commune is a recurrent fantasy, yet most of them lack any type of farming or gardening skills, and wouldn't survive a week without dumpster-diving a large portion of their foods. Basically being dependent on the industrial agricultural and capitalist business practices they claim to despise.
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    The 60's Hippie Movement can partly be traced back to Germany;
    Or maybe they were just two similar phenomena that happened independently of each other with no common cause or link.

    Since the dawn of humanity just about everything has been tried at least once but it doesn't necessarily follow that those doing things today have drawn their inspiration from some previous group in the past. It's more a case of history repeating itself, as will inevitably happen every so often.

    It's actually quite easy to find a 'precedent' for something and I'm sure you could go back further still to find similar groups that predate this German movement. Personally, I can't find anything more than a slight resemblance between the Lebensreform and the hippies. Probably just about enough to justify a comparison though, and an interesting one at that

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    The dream of having their own small-scare farming commune is a recurrent fantasy, yet most of them lack any type of farming or gardening skills, and wouldn't survive a week without dumpster-diving a large portion of their foods. Basically being dependent on the industrial agricultural and capitalist business practices they claim to despise.
    I think in this globalised day and age it would be nigh on impossible to set up anything like this even if they did have the skills! Capitalism works in such a way that it would soon force them out of business

    Sure, there were some hazy dreamers amongst the hippies but hey, we all have the occasional fantasy when we're young that (with hindsight) was totally unrealistic ... if not downright embarrassing! Tell you what, Žoreišar, I wish I had a quid for every SS admirer I've met on the Internet who would not even have come close to making it into their ranks

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    Personally, I'm not a fan of hippies. They promoted proto-SJW nonsense in the 60s and then, after they grew up, they flooded the educational system. 9 times out of 10 when I've found myself dealing with an insane SJW teacher I've come to find out that said teacher was a liberal hippie back in his / her youth.

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