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    Racially Questionable Others

    I wanted to make a thread that aims at classifying people of questionable racial backgrounds.

    I'll start with a couple of photos of people that I often wonder what race they actually are.

    Can someone classify these two?

    Jessica Biel















    Eric Balfour











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    Jessica Biel: Balto-Cromagnoid/Balto-Alpinoid with Nordoid/Mediterranoid influence.
    Eric Balfour: Atlantomediterranid-Dinarid with Cromagnid influence. The Cromagnid influence could be Dalofaelid as well as Paleatlantid. Other influences - e.g. Silvid - are possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldstein View Post
    Jessica Biel: Balto-Cromagnoid/Balto-Alpinoid with Nordoid/Mediterranoid influence.
    Eric Balfour: Atlantomediterranid-Dinarid with Cromagnid influence. The Cromagnid influence could be Dalofaelid as well as Paleatlantid. Other influences - e.g. Silvid - are possible.
    In both of their online biographies they both claim to have some native American ancestory.

    What do you think?

    If that is the case, would you still consider them caucasoid europids despite the admixture?
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    Native American is obvious in Biel. Balfour gives me more of a North African vibe. I don't really see Native American in him, although I definitely don't think he looks European. He looks strange, like a lot of people you sadly now see in France, of mixed French and North African heritage.

    Can I add my own ambiguous person?

    Lee Van Cleef:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Lee Van Cleef:
    He looks Dinarid with some sort of Mexican influence or something, to me.

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    Hamer Fox said: Can I add my own ambiguous person?
    Of course.

    Such is the reason why I created this thread.

    [I plan on adding other racially questionable others here overtime where we can all debate the best course of action to classify them as.]
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    I won't post her name straight away, because there's a bit of a clue in it. I think she's an especially strange case, because her ancestry is only obviously in some of her pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post








    I won't post her name straight away, because there's a bit of a clue in it. I think she's an especially strange case, because her ancestry is only obviously in some of her pictures.
    I guessed part Chinese (and that was my opinion before I checked the name of the jpeg file & googled), she gives off a Keanu Reeves & Tilly sisters vibe, especially in the first pic.









    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    In both of their online biographies they both claim to have some native American ancestory.
    It's possible but it is trendy to claim it. Being multiracial is cool, ask BHO!.....

    What do you think?
    I had heard that Biel was supposedly part American Indian (the subject has come up before) but she looks less exotic to me then some Southern & Eastern Europeans. If she is descended from pioneering stock her phenotype could be accounted for by enviromental factors her ancestors encountered, such as a diet high in wild game. As for Balfour I just assumed he was a Medish type in spite of the Scottish surname.

    If that is the case, would you still consider them caucasoid europids despite the admixture?
    Well I would. Biel & Balfour that is, not Reeves & the Tilly sisters. Others may have varying opinions. I guess the test could be "Are they eligible for a Skadi account?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    I guessed part Chinese (and that was my opinion before I checked the name of the jpeg file & googled), she gives off a Keanu Reeves & Tilly sisters vibe, especially in the first pic.
    In the first pic her Mongoloid traits are amplified by make-up, in the last pic it's obvious even without make up (in the eyes, cheekbones and flatness of the face). But in the third it's not that obvious to me. On the basis of that picture alone, I wouldn't assume she had anything non-white in her ancestry, and I like to think Ihave fairly good racial instincts.


    I had heard that Biel was supposedly part American Indian (the subject has come up before) but she looks less exotic to me then some Southern & Eastern Europeans. If she is descended from pioneering stock her phenotype could be accounted for by enviromental factors her ancestors encountered, such as a diet high in wild game.
    Most Americans who claim Native ancestry don't look it, like, from the top of my head:



    But in Biel the Silvid is quite strong. I'd say she looks at least 1/4 non-white. I'd argue her cheekbones alone couldn't occur naturally (and I don't think she's had surgery) for a pure European. In Europe, they're only really found among Eastern Europeans, and that's due to Uralic admixture. I'm not sure how someone with such ugly, harsh features got voted one of the world's most attractive women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    In both of their online biographies they both claim to have some native American ancestory.

    What do you think?

    If that is the case, would you still consider them caucasoid europids despite the admixture?
    O.K., it was inter alia the breadth and position of the cheekbones in Jessica Biel that made me think of Baltid influence. But Baltid, even more so Eastbaltid, can sometimes look like Silvid or, to put it more generally, mongoliform for obvious reasons.

    "Caucasoid", a rather misleading designation invented by Blumenbach, is a term I would not recommend to use.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaukasische_Rasse

    If your question aims at if the two individuals can still be considered predominantly Europid, I would say yes of course, but please keep in mind that I'm a bloody amateur.

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