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    Please Classify Mixed Girl

    75% white, 25% African





    With mother (centre):



    Again with mother:


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    Wow, I'm at a loss for words here.

    If I did not know her background I'd classify her as Bruenn-Alpine. I don't see anything Negroid about her, except maybe in the mouth region, but even there it's extremely subtle. I'm sure it would be a lot less ambiguous, though, if she did not have the money to hide it, that is if she is trying to hide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norbert View Post
    Wow, I'm at a loss for words here.

    If I did not know her background I'd classify her as Bruenn-Alpine. I don't see anything Negroid about her, except maybe in the mouth region, but even there it's extremely subtle. I'm sure it would be a lot less ambiguous, though, if she did not have the money to hide it, that is if she is trying to hide it.
    I don't believe there's anything cosmetic about her. This is her as a child:




    I see 'white' children with one white parent and one mixed parent at least once pretty much every time I go out to some busy urban environment. I've been unable to study exactly how common it is, but I think people 'passing' is happening more than we like to admit in our youngest generations, and is something we'll need to be very wary of in a few decades' time. I was thinking about making a thread about it, but I'm really not sure which sub-forum to place it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    75% white, 25% African



    On those pictures she looks like a full White. Which is impropable, but not impossible. If the mixed parent passes on the White genes instead of the other ones.

    She looks a bit different on the other ones...
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    With mother (centre):



    Again with mother:

    There she's got an odd look to here. And no resemblence with the mother, for that reason, I'd actually doubt relation.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox
    ...but I think people 'passing' is happening more than we like to admit in our youngest generations, and is something we'll need to be very weary of in a few decades' time. I was thinking about making a thread about it, but I'm really not sure which sub-forum to place it in.
    Yes, indeed, it's not the odd superrare case anymore. Even the Becker kids could pass as Europeans for untrained eyes with their freckles and reddish hair.


    Victoria Rowell is of mixed-race too though. Victoria's mother was a Mayflower English, and the father was African-American, assuming that he was mixed too, but I'd think that Maya's admixture is probably less than 25%. Still disturbing.
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    The mother is Victoria Rowell, an actress who's mother was of English (New England Yankee) descent & the father was US Negro. The father likely had significant (more then 1/2 ?) Europid ancestry so Rowell could be less then 25% Negro. Making the daughter an octoroon or less. Still unusual. This kind of mixture is more common in the Caribbean & they still do not look that Europid looking.

    Soledad O'Brien is another creepy example;



    ^ O'Brien with her parents (she is being held by her mother).




    ^ O'Brien with her children.

    In O'Brien's case I would guess her mother is less then 1/2 African (the mother was from Cuba) so O'Brien is likely somewhere between 1/8 (Octoroon) or 1/4 (Quadroon). I think O'Brien probably straightens her hair & use skin bleaching or makeup to appear lighter.

    If one of O'Brien's sons married Rowell's daughter there would still be a strong chance of the 2 of them producing a throwback.

    It is possible with modern reproductive technology that Rowell & O'Brien used donor eggs to have their children.

    I posted a thread on Suzanne Malveaux a long while back, it includes photos of her parents.
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    I'll admit i am shocked on this one. But if Michael Jackson can apparently have kids like this:



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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    ....Victoria Rowell is of mixed-race too though. Victoria's mother was a Mayflower English, and the father was African-American, assuming that he was mixed too, but I'd think that Maya's admixture is probably less than 25%. Still disturbing.
    Exactly assuming some non-negroid admixture with the dad, the average result for the daugthers negroid admixture would be ~20%, but due to Mendels laws that can be even lower. It's theoretical possible that a quadroon has no genetic admixture of one of it's grandparents. This is however unlikely tough.

    Maya Faye does resemble some cromagnon type, but there is something odd to her on some of the pictures, especially the lower two.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    On those pictures she looks like a full White. Which is impropable, but not impossible. If the mixed parent passes on the White genes instead of the other ones.
    Hopefully AV will correct me if I'm wrong, but, from my understanding, it's essentially random which genes we inherit from each parent. All that's absolute is that we inherit 50% from our mother and 50% from our father. In first generation mixtures, 50% of genes need to come from one race, and 50% from the other, so we always see obvious physical mixtures. However, with a mixed parent, it's technically possible for the 50% you inherit from him or her to be exclusively from one portion of the parent's two lineages. It just comes down to statistics. It's very unlikely you'd inherit genes only from the three grandparents of one race and none from the other. But this can happen relatively, so that people can look either more or less than their actual ancestral proportion.

    In all likelihood, if we were to give her an autosomal test, we'd find that her African grandparent's genes had been largely bypassed, inherited at a level too small for notable physical expression. Could they be recessive and resurface in her descendants? Maybe.

    There she's got an odd look to here. And no resemblence with the mother, for that reason, I'd actually doubt relation.
    I looked into it online, and I couldn't find any reason to think she isn't her real daughter. What I found was a lot of people doubting the relation (for obvious reasons), but everywhere I searched there was a general reassurance that she is the biological daughter. Apparently, they've appeared on talkshows/other interviews discussing the phenomenon of the daughter's appearance.

    One question to you: Living in South Africa, you probably have more experience with mixed people than most of us. What's your experience of the appearance of the average 'quadroon' that you see? How common is it for them to appear fully or overwhelmingly Caucasian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn
    I'll admit i am shocked on this one. But if Michael Jackson can apparently have kids like this
    Michael Jackson isnt the biological father of either of his kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by Horagallas
    And no resemblence with the mother, for that reason, I'd actually doubt relation.
    I thought so too, she looks really off, not only compared to her mother, but also the sister (even though they've different fathers). There should be at least some similarity, but there isnt.

    These odd black&white twins, there you can clearly see that they're twins, and somehow resemble some traits of their parents too. Apart from the eyes in the last picture though, which maybe is rather from a glas of alc too much anyway, there is no resemblance whatsoever. It would be interesting to see the father.
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