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    Or read here http://Www.levashov.info/English/art...verse-eng.HTML

    Click on the union jack, click articles and choose theory of the universe
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    Levashov is not a crackpot but an accomplished scientist.

    Check this out www.levashov.info/English/about-English.HTML

    Click on the English flag again, choose about me. There you have his awards.

    Heathenism is not religion it is science/knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Heathenism is not religion it is science/knowledge.
    Ah .... well that explains some of your views elsewhere.

    I don't wish this to come across as an attack, but Heathenry is a cultural folkway which includes within itself many religious elements. Saying Heathenry is a science comes across as rather ... New Age. If you like Germanic flavored New Age shamanism, so be it, but it's not historical Heathenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorwald View Post
    I don't wish to attack you, but honestly, if I may ask, what is the point of all your intellectual gymnastics designed to reconcile Christianity with Heathenry?

    I think a lot of Heathens secure in their faith don't feel Jesus as an enemy. They simply find him and his words and his ways to be totally irrelevant to what they are doing. As in, he doesn't matter any more than Buddha, or Confucius, or Tom Cruise to a Heathen folkway.

    Being a heathen doesn't necessarily mean walking around and badmouthing Jesus all day long. But it does mean getting to a state where you have moved beyond caring about Jesus and the church. I think you manifestly have a problem in doing that. So, with all due respect, perhaps you need to decide if you are really ready to be a Heathen, or if you should go back to Church? Trying some middle path, like being some Gnostic Christian with Heathen flavorings, will just leave you alienated from both camps.

    Actually, I just think too much.
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    Well.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    You do understand that Heathenry is folkish, yes?

    You do also understand (let's suppose for a moment something like Jesus ever existed, for the sake of argument) that Jesus was a Jew, that he "came down" in a Jewish environment, to be the messiah for the Jews. (despite that christians believe that he was the savior for "mankind", this, however, is wrong, the messiah is supposed to help the Jews against their enemies and bring Jewish supremacy over the world; the Jews dont consider anyone else but themselves "human", so even if he said that, we are not part of mankind, and Jesus, any Jew back then in Jerusalem, certainly did not question that, and most do not today either)

    You do then understand that Jesus cannot have a place in our, Germanic folkish faith, yes? Regardless of what one thinks about christianity and/or Jesus, contempt or indifference, he cannot have a place there, because he is not of our folk, he is not part of our folkish faith, our mythology, our legends, whatever.


    Ally? No. When you look at what a "messiah" is supposed to be and do - and it is a Jewish concept through and through - then you must realise christianity as a weapon that non-Jewish christians point against themselves all the time. It's ironic that christians have most of the time been anti-Jewish, while not being able to fight off the spell that has been cast upon them and still working the Jewish plan, pushed into a certain positions that serves the Jews even if they seem to take the "opposition".
    Actually, Jesus does tell his disciples to go to all the nations. But you're right, he is a jew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Jesus Death is a corrupted Version of Odin hanging on the world tree.

    Odin hang for 9 days and nights on a windswept tree to bring knowledge to his people so they can evolve and improve. While hanging he was wounded with a lance, most likely Gugnir which meant he was not able to miss his aim.
    He also sacrificed himself to himself.

    Jesus hang on a wooden beam. He was wounded by a lance. His death supposedly opened the door to heaven. His God sacrificed his human son to himself.

    A lot of similarities to be accidental. The main difference is that heathen develope through knowledge and Christians through blind faith.

    This is of course equally not accidental. The Christian version of Odin's care for his people is corrupted for a reason. Christians are not told the real background because the knowledge would reveal the Christian fraud. Therefore they have to believe.

    There are different forces/energies working through the universe. The most basic one are dark forces and light forces. There is a struggle between them. the dark force is called in the Slavic Veda MARA. (the light force is called Ra-h-om or in the Indian Veda Brahma, ((the Egyptians, an Aryan people used the word Ra for this force))). The point of Mara is that it gives you power but keeps you blind.

    Jews are humans unlike us Aryan (or however you want to call us). Their origin is demonic. Their design does not incorporate a soul for example, seen at the total lack of expression of the soul, like compassion, mercy, conscience etc. Their Messiah is therefore a magician working with Mara to obtain power for the Jews so they can get the upper hand over the beings of light, to which we, the Aryan belong.

    Jews would not understand what we understand, because they are of a different design, they think we are dumb and we think they are the scum of humanity, not getting what is essential to be human and to develop.

    Christianity has been written by Jewish people, (there is a lot of background knowledge about Jewish customs and religion which an outsider would not know) and obviously for non-Jewish people (for example christians do not know circumcision which for Jewish people is an essential thing) obversable on the many differences which make christians non-Jewish.

    Christianity is a Trojan horse, designed to give Jews power over white people, their arch-enemies.

    Therefore as a heathen I do not accept the corrupted version of Odin, called Jesus.

    Whatever has contradictions in itself is not pure. It is a corrupted version of the true wisdom, twisted to serve an anti-Aryan purpose. That is the hallmark of dark forces.
    Whew. Wow. Jews don't have souls? How did you come to this conclusion?
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    Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    The basis of being Heathen is not simply to obey a stupid and simple set of common sense rules. You think a "god" would count how many times one masturbates? Or, "do not lie", or "do not desire women" .... what the hell? That is the type of stuff you tell a four year old. Heathenry is all about YOU. It is internal and manifests in different ways depending on the practitioner.
    You mention that we don't have a doctrine. The thing is, we never NEEDED a doctrine. Because we don't need to be reassured. It is in our blood! Our traditions were oral for a reason. We communicated telepathically. Our tradition is natural, we don't need anyone or a book to convince us.
    How can anyone look around the world and not see the plague that the jews have created? The world is equally Heathen and Jewish (but has been shifting drastically) as far as culturally, economically, spiritually and traditionally. We are in a struggle for life and for a future. They are defeating us, mostly because our folk are commited to christianity. If we could get our people back spiritually .. the tides would turn. I hate to say this but deep down I believe that christians are a sort of folk-traitor.

    Could you please explain to me the problem with the Jews?
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    @ Thorwald

    Heathenry is historic but changes with the demands of the time. The Heathenry you study is from before the Goetterdaemmerung, now we are at a renewal time, after the Goetterdaemmerung.

    Science is what is coming out of Heathenry, no other culture developed something like that. Science in heathen time encompassed the whole thing, meaning the spiritual world as well as the material. (therefore the church was against it).

    About shamanism

    Heathen shamanism is pretty much not existent anymore but has to be jumpstarted. I have the distinct impression that Odin sent me there to study. After all he is the master shaman


    Odin works in many ways with his people, just today:

    On Friday I picked my wife up from a shamanism course, there she met another woman who had a necklace with the face of an old man with beard. My wife immediately recognized him as Odin. she asked one for me too. That woman called her brother who makes those necklaces. He told her he made one already by inspiration, not knowing for whom. He also said he sees these face sometimes and then makes one. He did not know the connection between Odin and that face and got very excited to hear that. He said he had once a dream that he is the son of Odin. so I get my necklace.

    the woman flew home and the last passenger entering was an old man with long hair and a long beard, and only one eye. He sat beside her and they were talking about Odin.

    Those Things Happen quit frequently.

    For me there is no doubt that Odin is active and guiding people.
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    Heathenism is racial. White people are the clan of Odin.

    Heathenism has the understanding that there are forces of light and darkness. Zoroastrian belief is very much based on it. Zoroaster is from the Persian branch, today called Iran, meaning land of the Aryan.

    According to the different forces there are also different tribes connected to the different forces.

    Jews belong to the dark forces. They have no soul (except maybe for a few race mixed individuals). Expressions of the soul are mercy, compassion, and foremost conscience. A soul applies to something higher and wants a connection. The vast majority of Jews are lacking that, their religion is about power and enslaving other humans, clearly they belong to the dark forces.
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    From a heathen point of view Jesus is the Rune ISA.

    The runa ISA is used to freeze any negative development. Also for a strong will . So the composers of Christianity and Jesus most likely used the rune ISA.
    'jesus' name in Hebrew is Joshua (Yahweh is salvation, meaning the dark demon is your destiny)

    But as the dark times are over 'Jesus/isa' is no longer necessary.
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