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Thread: Shouldn't We Write in Runes, Rather Than Latin Alphabet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germaid View Post
    This bothers me too to be honest. Concerning Umlaute, I just write ae instead of ä, etc. The Latin Alphabet is definitely more convenient for every-day writing.

    This. The Ä came from AE (Ä<Aͤ<AE), like as the swedish Å<AA. Just the small e became to double point on the top of the A. Furthermore the original latin alphabet haven't got many nowadays used letter without diacritical mark like as G, J, U, W, X, Y, Z. These evolved and some ones borrowed from the greek alphabet under the last two thousend years.

    The useage of the Runes on paper would be ineffective most likely, however it would be quite good as city sign, street sign or other decoration on doors, cars, bags, t-shirts. I think these just depend on money and decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge
    In my opinion, we shouldn't "return" to use runes in everday life. I don't think the usage of runes as an alphabet for the common people was widespread among our ancestors, especially considering that only a small minority was literate at all.
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    There's no point in doing things the way people did them - for whatever reason - 1000+ years ago just for the sake of doing it like them. It can have its merit in some things, in others it doesnt.

    Not every Roman could write either, for some reason this does not lead you to the same condemnation of the Roman script though, while this is an argument against Runes?


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    Some sounds in many modern Germanic languages cannot even be expressed in runes, such as the ä, ö, ü umlauts in my own mother tongue.
    Which the Latin alphabet didnt possess either, no k, no j, no distinct u or w either, and from æ, å, ø, or the Icelandic Runic letters ð, Þ not even to start (the Umlauts, at least in northern Germany, used to be æ and œ btw). So to make it say what and how we say it we've altered it already. It wasnt adopted as it was, I dont see why we shouldnt be able to expand the Runic alphabet to fit our needs too then, but instead insist of using it the way it was. The original shouldnt be forgotten of course, because of its cosmological/mythic contents, but I dont see a problem to alter/expand it for writing purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Not every Roman could write either, for some reason this does not lead you to the same condemnation of the Roman script though, while this is an argument against Runes?


    Gothic Runes
    These are not Runes, but a version of the greek alphabet to describe the Gothic language by Wulfilas, as probably the pronunciation of this Gothic alphabet was similar to the Byzantine Greek.

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    DEFINITELY not ! The runes are way more then just letters. Using them for ever day writing would be almost a sacrilege, don´t you think ? The runes are something better reserved for special occasions. You don´t serve your best vine every day,or it looses being something special ! To use them simply to write say a grocery list feels just wrong !!! ODIN sacrificed himself and hung from the tree to get this knowledge for us and him. If we used them every day it would also be an insult to ODIN , don´t you think ? It would look like we do not show the runes the proper respect which they so rightfully deserve ! The latin alphabet is just that, an alphabet. The runes are so much more, and they are definitely not something to play around with !!!
    There won't be humans in 500 years. Enough people choke themselves when they jerk off we gave it a name. We ain't a species made to last.

    Judging by it´s name common sense must once have been a pretty common thing. When and why did that change, so it became the rare treasure it is today???

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    Bah, the runes do not have upper and lower case, nor—most important of all—do they have serifs. Reading a book in runes would be torture on the eyes, and it would go a lot slower than if it were in Roman letters with serifs and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyn View Post
    Using them for ever day writing would be almost a sacrilege, don´t you think ?
    Interrestingly, the Dalecarlian Runes were used in the early Modern Era in Dalarna.

    When Carl Linnaeus visited Älvdalen in Dalarna in 1734, he made the following note in his diary:

    The peasants in the community here, apart from using rune staves, still today write their names and ownership marks with runic letters, as is seen on walls, corner stones, bowls, etc. Which one does not know to be still continued anywhere else in Sweden.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalecarlian_runes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyn
    ODIN sacrificed himself and hung from the tree to get this knowledge for us and him
    If you literally believe in such superstition.
    The latin alphabet is just that, an alphabet. The runes are so much more, and they are definitely not something to play around with !!!
    The only thing that separates the two is the divorce of time and space that lead to their respective cultural milieus. All written script in the West derives from Phoenician Alphabet, the watershed of Greco-Etruscan-Latin variation wich Runic script would take off from. The Runic script is just that, an Alpha Beta chronology of symbols used to convey abstract thought. Before runic inscription, proto-Germanic peoples are in all likelihood oral transmitters.
    There's nothing inherently mystical or sacred to them aside from the value pagans attach to them. Writing Runes on paper isn't exactly the most convenient form of writing, more suited for hard surfaces like rocks and wood, Greco-Latin is a more aesthetically pleasing medium to work with, especially with the leeway of certain phonetical pronunciations, and like Neophyte said, the innovation of upper and lower cases.

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    We should have all Germanic tongues written in Runic. There's nothing esoteric about it, nor anything superior about Latin. It is true that they both derive from Italic on a general basis, whilst both Italic and Hellenic are derived from Phoenician, no different than Hebrew. Everyone ought to feel comfortable in his own skin. Whoever makes light of it, ought to speak a foreign language instead of his own, to condemn both orthography and speech to oblivion. That sounds like Germanic preservation to me--not...

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