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    I live in London, I'm not aware of any "anti-German sentiment" as described in those articles. Imo it's grossly exaggerated to the point of it being a falsification.

    What I have noticed of late (the last 9 months or so) is that the British Tabloid Media in particular have stepped up an anti-German campaign and are pushing anti-German articles with fervour. (Much in the same way they have been pushing anti-Russian ones).

    A handful of chumps and sheeple react to these provocative articles, given enough time they will start reinforcing a negative stereotype in the collective drone mind of the sheeple.

    Note that imo what's happening here is that sections of the British Media are leading an anti-German campaign. We're not witnessing anti-German sentiment from the general public as such.
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    "The truth is that Britain, not Germany, is the nation that is the prisoner of its past," said the Guardian newspaper last fall.
    The Guardian gets it right, or shall i say "The prisoner of it's global empire over 100s of millions colored people" who thinks that Britain owes them something, at the minimum to keep the gates open to allow them to migrate into the former "mother-country".

    Quote Originally Posted by Unity Mitford View Post
    Exaggerated to the point of absurdity. *yawns*
    You appear to resist the programming and are close to commit a "thought-crime" . Read it again:
    "Of course, we don't like the Germans. Why should we? They're awful people. Why shouldn't Silvio make jokes about their Nazi past?" said an article in the London tabloid Daily Mail this month,
    Yours ministry of "thought-control" aka the Daily Beast.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    I live in London, I'm not aware of any "anti-German sentiment" as described in those articles. Imo it's grossly exaggerated to the point of it being a falsification.
    From the Wikipedia entry on Anti-Germanism.
    Anti-German hostility deepened since early 1896 after the Kruger telegram of Kaiser Wilhelm II, in which he congratulated President Kruger of the Transvaal on resisting the British Jameson Raid. Attacks on Germans in London were reported in the German press at the time but do not appear to have actually occurred. The Saturday Review (London) suggested "be ready to fight Germany, as Germania est delenda" (Germany needs to be destroyed).

    In 1900 during the Second Boer War, a German barber in Tottenham was accused of pro-Boer sympathies and attacked, and in 1901 there were attacks on Germans travelling by train in east London.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-German_sentiment
    Since Kaiser Wilhelm dared to make a pro-Boer public statement in 1896 there is no holding back, especially not in the Daily Mail.
    Following the signing of the Entente Cordiale in 1904 between Britain and France, attitudes towards Germany and German residents in Britain became very negative. A fear of German militarism replaced a previous admiration for German culture and literature. At the same time, journalists produced a stream of articles on the threat posed by Germany.[3]

    In 1894 Alfred Harmsworth had commissioned author William Le Queux to write the serial novel The Great War in England in 1897, which featured Germany, France and Russia combining forces to crush Britain. Twelve years later Harmsworth asked him to repeat this, promising the full support of his formidable advertising capabilities. The result was the bestselling The Invasion of 1910 which originally appeared in serial form in the Daily Mail in 1906 and has been referred to by historians as inducing an atmosphere of paranoia, mass hysteria and Germanophobia that would climax in the Naval Scare of 1908-09.[4] Articles of the Daily Mail regularly advocated anti-German sentiments throughout the 20th century, telling British readers to refuse service at restaurants by Austrian or German waiters on the claim that they were spies and told them that if a German-sounding waiter claimed to be Swiss that they should demand to see the waiter's passport
    So the Daily Mail is just doing what the outlet always did since 1896.
    Bashing the Germans. I wonder if that is the reason why the Daily Mail to be the most quoted newspaper source here on Skadi. And it is the Daily Mail.

    British public people, whether journalists or politicians, are more prepared to demonise the Germans than any other people I know are prepared to vilify any other nation I have heard of."

    — Hugo Young, The Guardian

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    Too be honest,i don't see this at all and i'm actually seeing Germans being portrayed in a better light without everyone doing the Hitler salute whether somebody is talking about Germans.

    My dad used to be extremely against the Germans(no doubt because of WW2 where his grand father was killed) but even he now admires them.I guess it could be something to do with the fact that he hates the current changes happen theoughout Europe and now realises that the Germans were right.

    In British society overall though i would say Germans now have a bit of a reputation for being friendly visitors who love their beer,or at least from my perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by ampersand View Post
    The Daily Mail seems to be particularly obsessed, every day there's a new story about Hitler or the Nazis, it's pretty pathetic really. Just from the last week:

    British archaeologist destroys Holocaust deniers' argument with mass grave find at Treblinka (I'll believe it when I see it...)

    Did Uncle Tom make Adolf a nicer person?

    Hitler stole idea for iconic Volkswagen Beetle from a Jewish engineer, historian claims

    The Fuehrer and his Frauleins: Extraordinary colour photographs emerge of Nazi leader celebrating his 50th birthday (with lots of brunettes)

    Two words in Morse code show defiance to Führer: PoW who stitched up Hitler in message that his henchman failed to spot

    The priest who changed the course of history for the worse... by rescuing four-year-old Hitler from drowning in icy river

    The Daily Mail tend to be a typical left wing news outlet who loves bashing Hitler on any given occasion.

    Heres there latest Hitler article:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ttraction.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Eye View Post
    The Daily Mail tend to be a typical left wing news outlet who loves bashing Hitler on any given occasion.

    Heres there latest Hitler article:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ttraction.html
    Cute.
    Adolf Hitler's secret 'Wolf Lair' set deep in the heart of a forest in north-eastern Poland is to be turned into a major tourist attraction.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1jtFk3zOD
    The same is going on in Vinnitsa/Ukr:

    Nazis' Ukraine HQ to Become a Museum
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.p...light=vinnitsa

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    To add my two € 0,02 of anecdotal evidence, having worked for an English manager for 4 years I've been to England plenty of times, and not once have I been treated inadequately by anyone I've met. I do think there's a lot of anti-German sentiments in some parts of the media, tabloids mostly, but that doesn't necessarily reflect how the majority of the English feel about the Germans.

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    I have met Germans that would not venture to England because of the abuse dished out by the inhabitants there.

    I can't say that I would blame them, why waste your money going to a place where people abuse you.

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    I have met Germans that would not venture to England because of the abuse dished out by the inhabitants there.
    How many people are you basing this on?

    I ask because the overall situation is nothing close to what this statement suggests

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    I have a couple theories regarding this supposed prejudice against Germans in Britain:

    1. Germany is the most important country in the EU. Therefore, when unfavorable things happen (like the trouble with the Euro right now), people will naturally seek out Germany as a scapegoat. The nation in general is likely to resent Germany slightly because Germany's influence seems to have surpassed that of Great Britain, while Britain was historically more powerful. Germany might have "stolen Britain's thunder," so to speak.

    2. As far as the Nazi analogies go, I think much of that is media sensationalism. Anything Nazi-related is controversial, and the media thrives on controversy, because controversy attracts a larger audience, and, therefore, more money for the media companies. This suggests that the media reports of prejudice against Germans are, in fact, overblown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroBro View Post
    I have met Germans that would not venture to England because of the abuse dished out by the inhabitants there.

    I can't say that I would blame them, why waste your money going to a place where people abuse you.
    I myself have only once been in the UK. One week as a student. I haven't been beaten up or abused, nor teared and feathered (like that supposedly pro-Boer barberer in Tottenham 1900). Let's put it this way: A German cannot expect to receive a warm welcome or the hospitality that he would enjoy as a guest in let's say the Middle West of A, much less the almost enthusiastic and almost embarrassing hospitality in countries such as Croatia. Also in France there was never a problem, but the attitude differs with the region. While receiving almost the same embarrassing hospitality in Normandy and partly Bretagne, Southern and Central France is different.

    Another point: I never had a problem with Scottish or Irish people, when there has been a problem in the past with anyone from the UK that is limited to the English. A possible explaintation i received from a Scot once was, that is has to do with a kind of "master-race" attitude on the side of the English who believe themselves to be the supreme race on the British Isles.
    Another Scottish friend posts now and then here on Skadi (Pictoria).

    So if i ever return as a tourist i would like to visit Scotland or Ireland and spend my money there. Although it might be theoretically possible in the future that due to some yet unknown 'urgent' reason , political or private, i may have to visit England again, i wouldn't shy away from it with an argument like "no, i can't come because of bla...bla...bla."

    Quote Originally Posted by Sven View Post
    To add my two € 0,02 of anecdotal evidence, having worked for an English manager for 4 years I've been to England plenty of times, and not once have I been treated inadequately by anyone I've met. I do think there's a lot of anti-German sentiments in some parts of the media, tabloids mostly, but that doesn't necessarily reflect how the majority of the English feel about the Germans.
    Thanks for the honest update. My one and only visit is somewhat ago...

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    England seems to have a real problem with anti-white/European attitudes. They seem to be rather self hating also. Anti-German attitudes wouldn't surprise me.

    Not that surprising considering all the non-white immigration and anti-white propaganda they have.

    Plus the fact that Germany being so strong and with its history its easy to pick on.
    Proud to be Germanic.

    Even though my ancestry is English, Germany is my favorite country.

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