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    Paranoid Schizophrenia - and Other Mental Illnesses

    Hi Skadites,

    yesterday I came across an article and video about a young girl which got paranoid schizophrenia with birth and which is in a very sad and dangerous condition, accompanied by sorrows, concern and fear for the whole family. I think we can´t imagine what the family goes through year by year, and with what horrors the head of the girl has to deal with. Just read the text, it´s almost unbelievable and just saddening. By the age of 9, the girl tried to attack and kill her mother with a knife more than once, has to endure constant mental hauntings and illusions, attempted suicide and says she hates her life.

    "Rebecca Stancil often seems like a typical 9-year-old girl, playing a sweet child's game of rock, paper, scissors with friends and attending pool parties in her Simi Valley, Calif., neighborhood.



    Rebecca has been in and out of hospital nine times to quell voices in her head.

    But at her darkest moments, she'll deliver a chilling discourse on how to acquire a power tool to kill her mother, who has at times had to lock herself in her bedroom to protect herself from her own daughter. "I guess I'd steal [a chainsaw] from a store. I could get them anywhere -- or people's garage during the night," Rebecca said. "Break a little glass thingies that you turn. It's a circle and you turn it and you put your hand around and unlock it."

    Rebecca has been haunted by images of wolves, men with monster faces, and shadows and shapes that scamper around a darkened room at night since she was 3 years old. Her hallucinations have driven her to act violently toward her mother, Cinnamon Stancil. "She's pulled knives on me before. She's hit me with whatever random things she can get. She's grabbed the lid off the back of a toilet seat and came after me with that, swinging," said her mother. "It's this adorable face telling you she wants to kill you."

    In December 2008, Rebecca was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, a chronic, severe, and disabling brain disorder "I have paranoid [schizophrenia]," she told ABC News correspondent Jay Schadler. "Paranoid is when you think something's gonna happen but it's really not." Schizophrenia in children is extremely rare -- 1 in 30,000 is diagnosed in the United States each year. Sustained hallucinations -- those lasting over a period of at least six months -- are among the key criteria in diagnosing the disorder. "For whatever kind of horrible twist of fate of what makes schizophrenia, [the hallucinations] are very morbid, violent," said Dr. Mark DeAntonio, director of the child and adolescent psychiatric ward at UCLA, who at times, has overseen Rebecca's treatment. "It is not a happy state to be in. It is very nightmarish."

    In November 2008, to quell voices in her head, Rebecca tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists with a hairclip. It was one of the lowest points for her mother, who recalled bringing her daughter to the hospital. "Picture you're bringing your daughter there saying, 'My daughter wants to kill herself,' you know? And I'm in tears, and ...I can't believe I'm really doing this...basically handing her over to them," Stancil said. "It's almost like you have to grieve that all the thoughts that you had of your kid are gone." Schizophrenics are up to 10 times more likely to attempt suicide than the general population. "I'm worried as she gets older she will have some better ideas as to how to do it, which is terrifying," Stancil said.

    One of Rebecca's recurring hallucinations is "the man" -- a 6-foot-seven vision that can be a friend or foe. "He follows me everywhere," she said. "I just feel like he's somebody's watching me." But sometimes, "the man" does more than watch Rebecca. "She sees him, and he's putting a gun to her head telling her she has to run away," Rebecca's mother recalled. "She got to the point where she wanted to run away, run on the freeway and get hit by a car to stop the man from coming."
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    Do you have cases of mental illnesses among your family or friends? Or own mental illnesses? How do you handle your problems or these people? I know it´s an uncomfortable topic but the problems are real and it makes no sense to ignore these people among us.

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    A spirit invaded her. She needs some extraction work.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Schizophrenia runs in my family, as do OCD and Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).

    I see the mental illness in my family as something akin to the cancer and Alzheimer's that also runs in the family - it's something unfortunate that we can't do much about. When someone in the family has a mental illness of some sort, that person will do the best he/she can to get it helped or treated, if possible, and the rest of the family will try to be supportive.
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    The 6 foot 7 figure is not a halluzination. It is real but without a physical body.

    It is attached to her and will not leave on it's own.

    Most shamans worth the, name can extract them. The girl will be free of any mental illness afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Do you have cases of mental illnesses among your family or friends? Or own mental illnesses? How do you handle your problems or these people? I know it´s an uncomfortable topic but the problems are real and it makes no sense to ignore these people among us.
    That is a very interesting topic you started there, Valk...

    I've grown up myself in a strange and somewhat disturbed family, a fact which scarred me for many years, and (I think) it subconsciously urged me to major in Psychology.

    Now - keep in mind - in my own country, mental disorders are rarely, if ever, diagnosed, as we don't have it in our culture to seek professional help and believe we can solve every problem on our own (like, the Windex parody)
    Or, most importantly, we are soaked in denial and don't want to accept that we may have a problem, so it most often goes undiagnosed and untreated.

    Therefore the following are estimations I have mostly made myself about my relatives, as they are too proud and stubborn to visit a specialist.

    My paternal grandmother: Histrionic personality disorder
    She was extremely manipulative, she has had very extreme emotional outbursts, she always liked to create intrigue and to start fights within the family out of imaginary causes.
    She always wanted to be on top of things, to hear only good words about herself, and could not take any form of criticism. If someone criticized her, even in a benevolent manner, she became extremely vicious and vindictive and would cause emotional harm to that person.

    Father: Borderline Personality Disorder
    Egoist, insecure, impulsive, doing irrational acts only to avoid what he would perceive as "humiliation"
    e.g. after his second wife cheated on him with the best man (), for a couple of years he would take them out every day, treat them and spoil them with drinks and presents, only to publicly show "he is totally cool" with their betrayal, and to avoid humiliation.
    Extreme denial; workaholic; delusions of grandeur; reckless and self destructive behaviour (he is obese and has diabetes and yet he drinks and eats like there is no tomorrow, etc)

    Mother: chronic depression
    (self explanatory)

    Half brother (my father's child with his third wife): ADD and dyslexia
    Those are actually diagnosed, and probably have to do with the fact that his mother had a very terrible pregnancy (almost miscarried a couple of times and spent her whole pregnancy period in the hospital) and he was eventually born prematurely.

    I have other relatives who are completely deranged and twisted, such as an 70 year old aunt who still keeps her 40 year old daughter at home, to prevent her from losing her virginity So the daughter is now 40+, never even flirted with a man, gone nuts from the hormonal imbalances and I believe is mildly mentally retarded and autistic as well.

    How do I deal with it?

    I try to help my mother cope with depression, by means of psychological and practical support.

    I distanced myself from my other relatives (especially on my father's side) because they are not only beyond help, but they are also dangerous for my own mental health.

    I think that in the present age, no family is entirely free of mental disease.
    It has to do with our modern, unnatural and frantic urban lifestyles, which will undoubtedly lead to some form of emotional baggage, depression being the most common.

    For example, family ties have broken, also women (self included) do not have children at all or they have them when it is late enough and plunge into post-partum depression and/or extreme and unnatural attachment with their children (which eventually results into creating emotional disorders for the children as well).

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    Poor kid, her life must be hell.

    The only mental thing in my family is depression, and only a few people have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis View Post
    Therefore the following are estimations I have mostly made myself about my relatives, as they are too proud and stubborn to visit a specialist.

    My paternal grandmother: Histrionic personality disorder
    She was extremely manipulative, she has had very extreme emotional outbursts, she always liked to create intrigue and to start fights within the family out of imaginary causes.
    She always wanted to be on top of things, to hear only good words about herself, and could not take any form of criticism. If someone criticized her, even in a benevolent manner, she became extremely vicious and vindictive and would cause emotional harm to that person.

    Father: Borderline Personality Disorder
    Egoist, insecure, impulsive, doing irrational acts only to avoid what he would perceive as "humiliation"
    e.g. after his second wife cheated on him with the best man (), for a couple of years he would take them out every day, treat them and spoil them with drinks and presents, only to publicly show "he is totally cool" with their betrayal, and to avoid humiliation.
    Extreme denial; workaholic; delusions of grandeur; reckless and self destructive behaviour (he is obese and has diabetes and yet he drinks and eats like there is no tomorrow, etc)

    Mother: chronic depression
    (self explanatory)

    Half brother (my father's child with his third wife): ADD and dyslexia
    Those are actually diagnosed, and probably have to do with the fact that his mother had a very terrible pregnancy (almost miscarried a couple of times and spent her whole pregnancy period in the hospital) and he was eventually born prematurely.

    I have other relatives who are completely deranged and twisted, such as an 70 year old aunt who still keeps her 40 year old daughter at home, to prevent her from losing her virginity So the daughter is now 40+, never even flirted with a man, gone nuts from the hormonal imbalances and I believe is mildly mentally retarded and autistic as well.
    Oh well Blaxis, that´s really interesting, I guess I have some similar (but not as strong and messed-up ) cases in my extended family as well. One aunt of mine can´t stop washing herself and cleaning her flat all day long, she thinks that "bacterias" and "viruses" are taking over if she takes a chill pill. She has also the habit to open the windows even in the coldest winter days because the room air could become "stall" and "asphyxiating". She brings her bed mattress and her pillows to a professional cleaning service every four weeks to clean them from "lices" and "bedbugs". She isn´t open to reason and thinks that 99,999% of mankind live a dirty life, like pigs.

    One of my uncles by marriage is a hysterical choleric who rants all day and about everything. He can´t say anything positive: If you give him a gift, he asks if it wasn´t available in an different color, if you show him a new car or a new jewelry, he says that it´s basically crap and names you a handful of other makes and models who are way better. If you want to make him a compliment, he thinks that it´s not honest. If you ask him why he is so moody and negative, he responds that the rest of the world is moody and negative and that he´s just reacting in a proper way...he can be a real prick.

    I assume that a nephew of mine has a Borderline personality, too, but I´m not sure about it and he isn´t seeing any counselor.

    Oh, and when I was a young teenage girl a doctor who was a friend of my parents back then suspected that I could have "social phobia" because I was so shy, introverted and such a mommy&daddy girl. I didn´t talk to unfamiliar and new people easily and I confess that I often felt most save at home with my parents or grandparents at my side. But is it a mental problem if you have such a great and loving family that you trust them blindly? I doubt it. I had never real problems to befriend other people, but I´m just not so outgoing and extroverted. Not a party girl, so to speak. People begin to talk with me, not vice versa. I´m still not good in advancing other persons and to start small-talk, but a rather shy and introverted personality is still far away from social phobia which would mean that you have fear of people and get panic attacks when surrounded by unknown people, like in public places.

    Gladly, my parents didn´t believe the "suspection" of that doctor friend and dismissed his idea of a "professional treatment" of their daughter. There´s also this huge problem of over-diagnosis: People receive medicaments and pills from an early age on even if they aren´t really ill at all! It´s one large, money-making business and the kids are just the instrument. Or do we really believe that the amount of children with ADHD has multiplied around 14 times in the last 30 years? (I´m not talking about real mental illnesses like shown in my initial post, of course!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post

    Do you have cases of mental illnesses among your family or friends? Or own mental illnesses? How do you handle your problems or these people? I know it´s an uncomfortable topic but the problems are real and it makes no sense to ignore these people among us.
    Such cases run in my family, historic and current, more specifically Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar Disorder, and Tourette Syndrome. I myself am not diagnosed with anything, nor do I exhibit any blatant symptoms, however there are controversial hints in my genetic results that suggests increased risk of developing these which I expected given family history. I remain optimistic for myself in that despite family history and possible genetic predisposition I have been unscathed.

    Others in my family have not been so fortunate and they suffer daily, one member is on a plethora of medications which do curb symptoms but have dreadful side effects and cause long term damages to internal organs and are financially demanding.

    I agree that ignoring these people is definitely not an option, however contemporary attentions are not always beneficial namely among the pharmaceutical industry and media portrayals of peoples with these conditions. This development seems contrary to more ancient history in that some controversially hypothesize that shamanic individuals were those bearing symptoms of these conditions and these people were respected within their societies, so it seems sentiment has taken a complete u-turn lately.
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    My younger sister suffers from a mental illness, although no one, including the seemingly infinite number of doctors my mother has desperately consulted, is sure of exactly what it is that is wrong with her. It's really bizarre; I'll try to explain anyway.

    I don't recall any defined moment of realization that she had a mental condition. She, the youngest child in our family and only girl, always had a peculiar nature. But it was perhaps when she began school and couldn't keep up with her peers in just about every subject when we first acknowledged something was wrong. And it was when her abnormally high frequency of temper tantrums continued into her childhood years, more violent than before, when we realized it was something serious.

    I could try to describe her with a long list of her odd behaviors and traits, from attacking random strangers to viscerally refusing to sleep by herself to her obsession with dolls whom she treats as real people to her devil-like remarks about how she is going to kill someone to her inability to do simple addition, even today at age 14, to having to sometimes communicate through notes even when face-to-face to... Forget it, I don't think any amount of words could convey how anomalous of a human being she is.

    She got so bad two years ago she had to be institutionalized for a month. I know that she must have been in hell the whole time she was there. As difficult as it is living with her, it beats worrying about how her fragile mind coped without her family.

    The doctors suspect it all derives from an auto-immune process that attacked or is attacking part of her brain, brought about by an infection in her infancy. Even then, they're not sure, they've never seen anyone like her. No one has, and that is what makes it so hard to come to peace with. No one we come across will ever understand our problem. There is no precedent. She seems so outwardly normal, at the most only a little quirky at first glance, yet she's anything but.

    Often times it strikes me just how surreal my and my family's life can seem with her. I'm always asking myself how reality, normally so predictable and dull, could have come up with my little sister.

    It saddens me, yes because of the things we have to deal with day-to-day, but mostly because I can see in her the bright, kindhearted young woman she was unable to become.

    I love her all the same.
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    I've been taking an SSRI for depression for quite a few months now. Hopefully I'll be off them eventually, but I guess it will take a while since I always had a melancholic disposition and negative outlook anyway.

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