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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueEnglish
    No, people like UKIP are changing that. And they have a regular seat on national TV, getting a national audience.... because they play by the rules. They are now the 4th biggest party as a result to my knowledge, and they support stopping immigration. Whilst the BNP is disintegrating.

    Know the differences.
    LOL. UKIP is the "allowed opposition" for entertaining purposes. Nigel Farage is a great speaker, but UPIK, EDL and all others of that sort will not change the status quo, because they ARE the status quo.

    They are the honeypots, collecting the hopes of people for a "peaceful change", for playing smart etc, distracting support away from the real nationalists. But in fact, they will change nothing. You dont win a war by talking smart. You win a war by fight. I've news for you. We are in a war already. Our enemies have set the rules. If you play by those rules, you have defeated yourself. Any goal for that matter. You've lost before you even enter the game.

    Change can come from people like the FN, the BNP, even our overretarded NPD. Everything else is just another puppet placed to make the sheeple believe that there's a "political" way. But there is none. It's time to wake up.
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    No, people like UKIP are changing that. And they have a regular seat on national TV, getting a national audience.... because they play by the rules. They are now the 4th biggest party as a result [...] Whilst the BNP is disintegrating.
    Oh dear

    So this is how UKIP supporters spend their time, is it? Policing Internet forums to tell BNP members to behave themselves and treat immigrant criminals with respect? I bet the authorities are laughing themselves hoarse at your rather puerile 'my party's bigger than your party' attitude (you vote for the 4th biggest party? WOW!!! ) and such infantile prattle as 'we're on the tele, you're not!'

    Yes, I'm beginning to get a better picture of you now, NotEnglish. I bet you live in a nice middle-class area (you've already expressed your sneering contempt for the White 'underclass' on council estates!) and you tell all the neighbours you vote Conservative, just so they don't think you're an extremist, eh? You probably have a photo of Sir Chris Preddie OBE in your bedroom next to your poster of the 4x100m. relay team, who you are proud to worship as our nation's representatives.

    You know, when historians come to write books in 100 years from now with such titles as How England Was Lost I'm sure there will be a whole chapter dedicated to 'civic nationalist' simpletons like yourself, who naively thought that anyone who ate fish and chips was an Englishman.


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    Like Velvet said, EDL, UKIP etc are the Controlled Opposition. They're artificial. Their purpose is to attract the interest and attention of the handful of angry and upset individuals who "need an alternative and a choice".

    Unfortunately that "choice" isn't much of a choice because these groups are the Status Quo. The choice is an illusion.

    They act as a lightning conduit for those with a few frustrations to maintain the illusion of "freedom and choice" for those who may have alternative views to those being pushed by media (controlled by the Elites) upon the mainstream.

    Playing by the rules by participating in this rigged dead-end system is pointless. What is needed is a real, genuine alternative supported by people like you and me who will agitate for our interests, not the interests of a handful of Elites. Accepting the system and the diktats of that system is not an option.
    ~ **** Democracy! It's 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding what's for dinner.

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    You don't play chess do you guys?

    It doesn't matter whether they are artificial or not. Politics is politics. UKIP may very well be the "allowed opposition", and will probably not change very much themselves. Congrats, you have figured out that much. Now make the mental leap. What happens if a parties that support stopping immigration get power? It will make it many times easier for people like the BNP to get recognition. "Hooray!" You should say.

    But ideally we don't want the BNP in power. We don't want to vote for a party with morons like Chris Hurst and Mark Collets are popping up in the news every few months for being arrested or banned from this or that due to NED behaviour. We want an intelligent alternative, which will come about naturally when those sort of politics are favourable again.

    It's known as strategic voting. Think about it. Study it. Learn it. That is how politics works. That is the reality behind the curtains. And the chances of winning politically are infinitely greater than violently for now due to the aforementioned reasons (no bonehead riots happening, no Anders Breiviks available).

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    Her majesty's opposition is already run by jews and blacks at the highest level.

    Jews had to fight for their homeland, europeans will clearly have to fight for theirs.

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    That was a nice juxtaposition between political winning and losing. Thank you for that well thought out contribution Nebelwerfer, you make lady justice proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueEnglish
    It will make it many times easier for people like the BNP to get recognition. "Hooray!" You should say.

    It's known as strategic voting. Think about it. Study it. Learn it. That is how politics works. That is the reality behind the curtains. And the chances of winning politically are infinitely greater than violently for now due to the aforementioned reasons.
    Ah, right. It has certainly proven over the last 65 years, that this "strategical voting" has led anywhere. Or that it was worth anything. Clearly visible in the skyrocketting immigration numbers. Clearly visible in all the minority representatives who have infinitely more influence than UKIP will ever have, regardless of how many votes they gather. Clearly visible in all the privileges granted to foreigners. Illegal immigrants can march through London for their "right" to break British laws and you are not allowed to object in any way. That is for sure a total success of stupid voting.

    And for strategic voting. Why not vote for the real thing? BNP needed to be forced by law to accept non-British members or they had been disbanded by the dictators. Look what the parties stand for. Vote for value. If you want Britain, vote BNP (ethnic nationalism). Not UKIP (civic nonnationalism). That's not a strategical vote, that's a thrown away vote. You could just as well not vote at all. Or right away join a "minority rights" group to support the destruction of Britain more efficiently.


    Since you talked about chess. When you play a game, you should know its rules. You have clearly not understood how the game works. You dont vote for neocons for green policy. So why vote for UKIP who are not nationalistic in any way, if you really want ethnocentric nationlism as represented by BNP? Your strategic vote should go to them. Everything else is just bullshitting.
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    To NotEnglish,

    For a person who claims to be true English you seem to have a very limited vocabulary. You have used the term "bonehead" so many times now that it really is becoming very tiresome.

    But regarding your general line of "reasoning", just who do you think you are kidding? If you were somebody who had just walked in off the street, then it might, just might, be possible to believe that you were simply naive. But this is clearly not the case.

    You have been with Skadi since August 2008, more than three years now. Your post count is 335 and I think it reasonable to assume that the number of posts by other members that you have read is many times that fgure.

    These things being so, it is just not possible for you not to know the reality of UK politics and the truth about such groups as UKIP.

    I am absolutely certain that there are many others on Skadi who, like myself, have arrived at the inescapable conclusion that you are nothing more than a Troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petervalhalla View Post
    To NotEnglish,

    For a person who claims to be true English you seem to have a very limited vocabulary. You have used the term "bonehead" so many times now that it really is becoming very tiresome.
    Why would it be getting tiresome. Are you a bonehead, or in league with boneheads? Your response would indicate this to be the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    And for strategic voting. Why not vote for the real thing? BNP needed...
    I already explained why you shouldn't necessarily vote for the BNP. You do not know how to debate properly. And you are not paying attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
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    Do you know a team of Anders Breiviks or not? No, you do not. So you have only politics to work with. There will be no more riots for a long time probably.

    You can't beat the man at the top unless you play the game properly, and strategically.

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    You can't beat the man at the top unless you play the game properly
    Their game will be over soon because its a broken dream.

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