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    British Schools Should End `Nazi’ Studies, Says Former Education Minister

    The Telegraph (Britain)

    British schools should no longer teach children about the Nazis because it makes them think less favourably of modern Germany, the architect of the National Curriculum has claimed. Lord Baker of Dorking, who spent three years as Margaret Thatcher’s education secretary, said that he would ban the topic and concentrate on British history instead. In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, he said that schools should concentrate on teaching “the story in our own country” rather than the events of the Second World War, including the Holocaust. Lord Baker, who introduced the National Curriculum in the 1980s, said: “I would ban the study of Nazism from the history curriculum totally.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ord-Baker.html

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    I hope this happens

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    As an old fogey I second this, as a child in the 70s I was taught British history first and then the rest followed. It was the same when my family moved to South Africa and I went to school there. I was taught South African history (primarily the Great Trek of the Afrikaner, wars of survival against black tribes, then twentieth century history of SA, etc.) as is right. When my kids went to school here in the UK, I was (to say the least) surprised at what they were taught and had to counter it with dad lecturing them at home and giving them 'alternative' histories to consider. The curriculum should have nothing to do with the PC history of an alien race.
    “unless they know, mystically, that beneath the concrete lies the earth which has nourished their race for a thousand years and ... that it is their own earth from which their blood is shed and renewed, then they are a lost people, and easy prey for those who have lacked roots for many centuries"
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    As an even older fogey than Thorbrand, I can remember Kenneth Baker doing irreparable damage to the English education system with his ill-conceived 'National Curriculum' that was announced with the sort of fine words that he's still spouting today.

    In practice, once you cut through all the waffle, you find that these things rarely come to fruition in the way that they are presented to the public via the media. This goes for politicians of all parties nowadays, who are very adept at making their populist proposals but seldom follow up with anything concrete!

    That said, it's an almost hopeless task to turn around the fortunes of our declining education system because the teaching profession is riddled with Marxists that simply will not implement these kind of changes and no government has the will to enforce them and risk any strife.

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    And that's before you even take into account the reaction of the various Jewish lobbies, that I've just read in the remainder of the article on Todesengel's link. Kenneth Baker can probably get away with this now because he's no longer an active MP but nobody with their career ahead of them would even consider such a proposal

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    Godwinson, what in your opinion are the chances (realistically) of establishing an "own" private or mini home schooling enterprise which caters for small numbers of students? (Obviously it won't work for the mainstream).

    I remember a year or two ago there was talk about privatising schooling (Camer00n's cronies and others were mentioned and some names from the US were mentioned as potential investors / shareholders but I cannot remember the details).

    It would be interesting to know if there are realistic chances of escaping the system here in the UK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Godwinson, what in your opinion are the chances (realistically) of establishing an "own" private or mini home schooling enterprise which caters for small numbers of students? (Obviously it won't work for the mainstream).

    I remember a year or two ago there was talk about privatising schooling (Camer00n's cronies and others were mentioned and some names from the US were mentioned as potential investors / shareholders but I cannot remember the details).

    It would be interesting to know if there are realistic chances of escaping the system here in the UK?
    There is that "Free Schools" thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Telegraph
    British schools should no longer "teach" children about the Nazis
    How about replacing the "Teaching about Nazism" with Real History?
    Those who cannot properly interpret the term Real History may find some explanation on David Irving's website and his Campaign For Real History.

    The Telegraph however points on the real problem that "these teachings" causes for the inhabitants of the British Isles. A disconnect and growing info gap between them and most of them world population. Thus raised with "British lens" may lead to an increasingly weird world-view and perception of other peoples.

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    I believe the government should get out of education, handing it back to the parents and NGOs. Then parents and schools can decide for themselves what their kids are getting taught.

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    It would be great if children would be spared the horrible Holocaust indoctrination, but I guess it is not to be....

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    Godwinson, what in your opinion are the chances (realistically) of establishing an "own" private or mini home schooling enterprise which caters for small numbers of students? (Obviously it won't work for the mainstream).

    It would be interesting to know if there are realistic chances of escaping the system here in the UK?
    Well, Roy, at the risk of sounding defeatist I'd say they were very slight indeed!

    I think you're onto a loser if you try and set up anything outside of mainstream education nowadays, given what's at stake for the social engineers who want as long as possible to work on the minds of as many as possible! The authorities would never allow significant numbers of children to quit state education, thus missing out on several years of indoctrination and in some countries these independent initiatives are simply declared illegal - full stop! I would even go as far as to say they'd trump up some kind of child abuse charges against you if you were too successful and they couldn't somehow regulate you out of business via masses of legislation/paperwork etc...

    I say this because I know of someone who received 5 years of harassment from the authorities because her methods were too traditional and it was claimed she 'humiliated' and 'traumatised' the kids (ie. told them off occasionally for bad behaviour), despite neither the kids themselves nor their parents ever complaining!! The bottom line is that her excellent results were attracting too many away from the other, more chaotic nursery schools in the area.

    In this instance, the establishment concerned became too big and was perceived as a threat, but since you mention 'small numbers of students' you might just stand a chance of remaining under the radar if you were clever enough to worship a few sacred cows such as 'equality' (at least publicly ) and generally make the right sort of noises to keep the PC fascists off your back during their numerous inspections of your premises.

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