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    What Does the Zi in Nazi Stand For?

    Have a look at this rather interesting film:- http://www.youtube.com/v/e2_oVexQk7I

    In it, Eustace Mullins claims the Na stands for national socialism but the zi stands for Zionism.

    Iam in two minds about Hitler, he did seem to do a lot of good in the early years, but the end result was as it says in the film, Israel should build a statue to Hitler, if not for him, there would be no Israel, and the Zionists had been after their 6 million figure for some time in order to get Palestine.



    The way it all turned out was exactly how the Zionists wanted, including that no one dare ever do what the world really needs, to overthrow the ruling jewish bankers.

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    You can achieve some interesting results once you start dissecting words but I doubt that that those trying to pull off such grand projects as the seizure of Palestine would make it quite so obvious who their agents were

    Another theory I've seen regarding the word 'Nazi' is that it's linked to the fact that most Jews in the 1930's were AshkeNAZI ones but, once again, I find this just a little bit too blatant!

    That said, Hitler did receive funding from Jewish sources with the Warburg family being amongst his main financiers. Actually, just as I was writing that it occurred to me that you could do something with the WARburg name as well

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    It is was used as a derogatory term for the NSDAP by the press and the Marxist parties. The socialist parties were called sozis, as a mocking joke so members of the National Socialist party were called Nazis as a spin off. No real National Socialist calls themselves a nazi. It is the equivalent of a marxist running around calling himself a sozi.

    It has nothing to do with Zionism, pure conspiracy nonsense. By far the most ridiculous thing I have heard on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NatSozArbeiter View Post
    It is was used as a derogatory term for the NSDAP by the press and the Marxist parties. The socialist parties were called sozis, as a mocking joke so members of the National Socialist party were called Nazis as a spin off. No real National Socialist calls themselves a nazi. It is the equivalent of a marxist running around calling himself a sozi.
    They also called themselves nazi's.

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    where did you see them calling themselves 'Nazi'?

    I am not aware that they did so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    They also called themselves nazi's.
    Perhaps jokingly on occassion. Officially never (Otherwise provide document), also not in speeches and commonly not in colloquial talk. Nazi is purely a name given to them by their foes.

    While the Zi didn't come from Zionism. A good response to the Nazi paraphrase would be to ask, whether they meant to say "National Zionists".
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    Perhaps jokingly on occassion. Officially never (Otherwise provide document), also not in speeches and commonly not in colloquial talk. Nazi is purely a name given to them by their foes.

    While the Zi didn't come from Zionism. A good response to the Nazi paraphrase would be to ask, whether they meant to say "National Zionists".
    Such as Dr. Goebbels, saying in a public speech: "Me enemies call me the Little Nazi with the Big Mouth, but none of them claims that i would have fallen onto my head or mouth (as in being brain- or mouth dead)".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    That said, Hitler did receive funding from Jewish sources with the Warburg family being amongst his main financiers. Actually, just as I was writing that it occurred to me that you could do something with the WARburg name as well
    If you talk about the mysterious $25 million donation from NYC over Warburg Bank Hamburg in 1932 that saved the NSDAP from bankruptcy after the presidential election campaign (Hitler vs Hindenburg, the latter backed by an all-party alliance left,center and right to prevent Hitler as President of the Reich) you have to know this:

    Franklin D. Roosevelt said in 1928 (as Governor of NY-State, that is long before he became President in January 1933)) that "it is in America's interest to back the most radical revisionist in the German political landscape." Being asked why, Roosevelt explained that this would lead to European tensions and eventually to war with the signature powers of the Versailles Treaty (Britain and France). Thus Big Business for the US, and hopefully to a stalemate situation in which Britain and France alone cannot "bring it on", thus need another time the US intervention.

    According to FDR "Who controls Germany controls Europe", and next time no half measures, because FDR himself was determined to take the jackpot, and share as little as possible.

    Always keep in mind that FDR was Undersecretary of the Navy-Department (later merged into DoD/Pentagon during his presidency) in Woodrow Wilson's WW1 cabinet, saw the rise of his mentor and the fall of Wilson (over the Versailles betrayal). Notice also that the US condemned the Versailles Treaty just like Germany and the USSR, and out of protest did not enter or back the League of Nations, and left it to Britain and France alone to "preserve" the Versailles result.

    Next time, so Roosevelt, would be a Pax Americana and not a Pax Britannica.

    No, Hitler was not puppet of anyone, but he took every donation no matter where from as long as it was given without condition. 1/3 of the NSDAP members were unemployed youth , and for them membership free. Those who were homeless even got a bed and free meals in some SA barracks that the party rented, to practice Volksgemeinschaft and social comerady. The party and Hitler were in urgent need of money all throughout 1920s and early 1930s---until they finally were in power.

    All in all the following grand-view and approach toward the figure of FDR is most realistic: The pyromaniac fireman.

    So in case you ever wondered why the US backed Saddam Hussein all throughout 1980s, and after he got too big in 1989, or just not not in line with what he was told to do, then declared him to be the "evil dictator who gasses his own people" and "enemy of mankind" you might want to think on FDR.

    To compare Churchill and Roosevelt is an insult for--- FDR.

    I devoted quite a lot of my research time into both, and this is my Final Judgment since years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    You can achieve some interesting results once you start dissecting words but I doubt that that those trying to pull off such grand projects as the seizure of Palestine would make it quite so obvious who their agents were
    This can be done easily by quoting the Balfour Declaration, Churchill's 1920 essay "Zionism vs Bolshevism" and many much more documents regarding British-Palestine.


    (British Palestine aka the future (1948) State of Israel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCPThree View Post
    Such as Dr. Goebbels, saying in a public speech: "Me enemies call me the Little Nazi with the Big Mouth, but none of them claims that i would have fallen onto my head or mouth (as in being brain- or mouth dead)".
    That's what I mean. For sure it wasn't an official term to describe oneselfs, but still one may have used it for rhetorical reasons. Almost all references are being made as Nationalsozialisten, hence National Socialists. But many of their oponents would have a problem using that kind of terminology, so they usually decide to use the more handy phrase "Nazi". However any text that uses it as a descriptive term can not be taken serious as an objective, scientific source. You can almost be certain to read some propaganda rant once that term appears frequently.

    The Bolchevik for marxist-leninist Communist was at least used by them semi-officially. Still many people would suspect some agitation, if someone did use it.

    As for Zionism, National Socialists were of coure in favor of many of their points and Hitler points that also out in speeches, even those that allegedly did advocate the "annihilation of the Jews".
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles
    As for Zionism, National Socialists were of coure in favor of many of their points and Hitler points that also out in speeches, even those that allegedly did advocate the "annihilation of the Jews".
    Where it should be pointed out that "Zionism" can mean many things, among them, but actually a fringe belief, Zionism as "Israeli Nationalism" and that Jews should all move to Israel. It was already during the 30s a fringe belief within the "Zionist movement" though, and most diaspora Jews consider Israel only as their training center to learn how to rule the world. And in fact, most Zionists consider the Israeli Nationalist "zionists" their ideological enemy.
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