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    Post We Won't Eat Halal Meat, Say MPs and Peers Who Reject Demands to Serve It at Westminster

    The Palace of Westminster has rejected demands to serve halal meat in its restaurants.
    Muslim MPs and peers have been told they cannot have meat slaughtered in line with Islamic tradition because the method – slitting an animal’s throat without first stunning it – is offensive to many of their non-Muslim colleagues.
    The stance has infuriated some parliamentarians who have eaten meat in the Palace’s 23 restaurants and cafes, having been assured that it was halal.
    Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said: ‘I did feel misled. I think a halal option should be made available.’
    In 2010, the Mail on Sunday revealed schools, hospitals and restaurants were serving halal meat to unwitting customers.
    Waitrose, Marks & Spencer, Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Somerfield and the Co-op all said they stocked meat slaughtered according to Islamic tradition without letting customers know.
    Fast-food chains including Domino’s Pizza, Pizza Hut, KFC, *Nando’s and Subway are also using halal meat without *telling customers, it was revealed.

    Members of the Church of England have complained that the spread of halal meat was 'effectively spreading Sharia law' across Britain.

    However, a spokesman for the House of Lords and the House of Commons confirmed that it was not served in their restaurants.
    Alison Ruoff, a member of the Church of England, said: ‘It’s a bit hypocritical that the Houses of Parliament, which have allowed other people to provide halal food, have ruled it out on their own premises.’
    When the meat is slaughtered, Islamic verse is uttered before the animal has its throat slashed.
    At Halal slaughterhouses thousands of birds are killed every hour.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...stminster.html

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    Good! Halal slaughter is barbaric, trust the muslims to even make eating cruel. They can crawl back to their sand pit if they want halal.

    I've heard so many stories about people being fed halal meat without their knowledge or consent. Muslims continue to take advantage of us.

    They really need to be kicked out.
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    Good for the Church of England. It's a clash of cultures. Either you're a Muslim and want halal or a pushover and want halal for the Muslims in your land, or you stick to your own convictions and tell the Muslims to bugger off.

    ‘It’s a bit hypocritical that the Houses of Parliament, which have allowed other people to provide halal food, have ruled it out on their own premises.’
    Yes, it is! That means there should be no halal meat anywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbite View Post
    Good! Halal slaughter is barbaric, trust the muslims to even make eating cruel. They can crawl back to their sand pit if they want halal.

    I've heard so many stories about people being fed halal meat without their knowledge or consent. Muslims continue to take advantage of us.

    They really need to be kicked out.
    Germanic slaughter practice hasn't been better, only in recent year we have improved.

    Most meat and chicken in Norway is butchered on a way that it pleases muslims here. They do it all the same way because it's cheaper.
    A muslim blesses the meat in the slaugther house.

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    I don't understand the problem, those virtuous and righteous Westminster MP's would be falling over their feet to praise the virtues of and gorge themselves on Kosher meat.

    Criticising Kosher would be akin to Holocaust denial, anti-Semitism and supporting Fox hunting.

    For those of you who wondered about the differences between Jewish and Muslim slaughter practices:


    Are Kosher products Halal?

    This is a question that comes up once in a while. Let us take the time to provide a thorough analysis. In Islam, Halal means ‘lawful’ or ‘permitted’ and refers to all matters of life, not just food. In the same way, haram means ‘unlawful’ or 'prohibited' and refers to all matters of life, not just food. So it is proper to refer to pure foods, marriage to a cousin, having marital relations during the nights of Ramadan, etc. as being Halal. In the same light, it is proper to refer to pork, marriage to your sister or brother, hunting while in the Sacred Precincts or in Pilgrim garb (for Haj or Umrah), shameful deeds, etc. as being haram.

    When it comes to meat and poultry, Muslims also use the term Zabiha (Dhabiha) to refer to meat from a Halal animal slaughtered by a Muslim in the prescribed Islamic way. (Meat from haram animals does not become Halal, even if it is slaughtered in the prescribed Islamic way. And a Muslim would never slaughter a haram animal.)

    Kosher is a term

    Islam prohibits all intoxicants, including alcohols, liquors and wines, whereas Judaism regards alcohol and wines as Kosher. Hence Kosher foods may contain alcohol. If they do, they are haram.
    Gelatin is considered Kosher by many Jews regardless of its source of origin. For Muslims, if gelatin is prepared from swine it is haram. Even if gelatin is prepared from cows that are not Zabiha, many scholars consider it haram.
    Kosher practice does not require Jews to pronounce the name of God on the animals while slaughtering, but Muslims must pronounce the name of ALLAH on all animals while slaughtering.
    There may be other differences between Halal and Kosher that make the Kosher questionable for Muslims to consume.

    These differences may seem minor to some. However, indulging in haram is a very serious offense against ALLAH and the punishment may be severe. Consuming alcohol or pork is a clear violation of ALLAH’s commandments and should not be taken lightly. The pronouncement of the name of ALLAH at the time of slaughter is also a major act of worship and obedience. Remembering and pronouncing the name of ALLAH is very dear to Muslims and it is required at the time of slaughter.
    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...ID=427&CATE=29
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    Bah, everyone feels offended for living in a country with a different culture from theirs by their own choice. If you dont like it here, if you dont like our laws and customs, just go home.

    We should learn from the Arab emirates. You dont get alcohol, you're served halal meat whoever you are, and when you step over their laws and customs, you get into prison and are thrown out. People who go there think twice whether they really should, and most of the time, they simply dont, because they dont want to be subject to Sharia Law.

    In turn this means, here in our countries you dont get halal or kosher. When you dont like it, dont come here.


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    There are a fair few with titles. Obviously they are given such honours due to monetary or political purposes, not by birthright. That is one the reasons why I believe our Monarchy and Nobility are corrupt and does not represent what it should stand for.
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    the jews and mussies could just choose the vegetarian option

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    Lord Ahmed of Rotherham
    Ironic that the town with such a name has a muslim "lord".

    Next thing that's probably going to happen, is that he (and other muslims) is going to be offended at the name of the town Rotherham, because of the ending-ham because ham is not halal meat, and they will try to change the name to, I don't know, "Rotherhalal", because "Rotherham" is offending the muslims? I certainly wouldn't put it past him....

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    Fantastic news.
    In todays world where we can kill animals for food in a more humane way,if thats possible,we don't need to keep up a barbaric slaughter process that a bunch of backward people from the Middle East practice.

    I'm actually surprised that someone is standing up and giving their opinion openly,but,where are the animal rights folks? they tend to cry bloody murder when animals are kicked or put in bins but not when it involves Halal?

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