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    Quote Originally Posted by Karpaten Befreier View Post
    There are more remains of Scythians than Huns, so until enough remains of real Huns, not people absorbed by them, will be found to put up a valid conclusion of their ethnicity and race, there is no telling.
    Jordanes gave a description of Attilla the Hun that sounds very close to a Mongoloid and nothing at all like a white man:

    Short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with grey; and he had a flat nose and tanned skin, showing evidence of his origin

    Also, if you look at Coon's The Races of Europe, he goes into detail on the description of Hunnic graves in Europe, and the descriptions of Huns and Mongols made by Europeans of the time. All of them show the Mongoloid characteristics of the Huns and Mongols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halldorr View Post
    In 451 AD, they and other Germanic tribes defeated the Huns in a great battle in southern France.
    Hey, hey, good old time..

    Victory of Merovingian King Merovech the armies of Attila the Hun in 451
    by Emmanuel Fremiet, 1867
    Metropolitan Museum of Art
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vi...g_Merovech.png

    But most historians rather see the Catalaunian Fields/Plains in actual Champagne perhaps near Chalon (North-East) rather than Catalogne (splitted between South-West of France and Spain)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...launian_Plains

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    I know that the Hunnic empire was huge in Eastern Europe and they waged fierce battles with the Roman Empire. One battle was so fierce a legend grew out of it that people could still see the soldiers fighting after they died. And I've seen some Hungarians, at least in videos, who seem to have a close affinity for the Huns and their culture.
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    I'd think that these ancient people who had wide empires that expanded over time mixed with the people they conquered, and eventually those on one side of the empire may have looked somewhat different to those on the other.

    Women were spoils of war, and rape was probably widespread.

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    Jordanes' description of Attila the Hun is pretty telling, and describes an Asiatic person. The Huns came out of nowhere, and their alien features scared the hell out of Europeans who had never seen them before. Christian authors described them as demons, monsters, and apocalyptic horsemen. The Goths even had a legend that the Huns were the semi-human children of Gothic witches, who had been expelled into the wilderness and impregnated by demons. (A certain atavism in this old legend, since the Goths wanted to distance themselves from their own dark past as "barbarians".)

    China's history also gives us many clues how the proto-Huns looked like, before they rode away into the West. The Chinese did a massive ethnic cleansing of the Huns, and we do know that many large-nosed native Han Chinese were killed. Therefore, the Huns had many Europid-admixed, big-nosed people. Among the Huns, the racial core element was mostly Siberian mongoloid, before they rode into the West and mixed with the peoples they conquered. Rape was widespread. As a result, the Huns on one side of the empire looked more "Eurasian" than those on the other side.

    Attila most likely had this mixed-race look. Right now, some Tatars probably resemble Attila the most, but his absolute racial type probably no longer exists on earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Weigelt View Post
    I know that the Hunnic empire was huge in Eastern Europe and they waged fierce battles with the Roman Empire. One battle was so fierce a legend grew out of it that people could still see the soldiers fighting after they died. And I've seen some Hungarians, at least in videos, who seem to have a close affinity for the Huns and their culture.
    The Hungarians are an East European people, no relation to the Huns. However, their language and national identity come from the Magyars (a part-mongoloid Ugric people that rode out of the east). However, the original Magyars only formed a small ruling class over their subjects, and never made up a majority. After passing on their culture and memes to their European footfolk, they were absorbed by them and vanished.

    In the weird case of the modern Hungarians, their ethnic identity is more shaped by memes than by genes.

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    Tartars and Kossacks are white Aryan people.

    It's called Tart-arya for a reason.

    Our early ancestors lived about 120.000 years ago in what is now the polar region. Through the icing they went southward and settled finally at the black sea. through the rising of the oceans, the two mountain columns, called Bosporus tody could not hold the water back but broke in, resulting in a sudden flooding of the black sea. the Aryan had to flee in all directions.

    Huns might indeed have been an Aryan people.

    Just a tidbit: The Chinese wall has been built by Aryans, it's defense features facing into China, to contain the Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Tartars and Kossacks are white Aryan people.
    Cossacks are white, but they're just horseback tribes of Ukrainians and Russians, not a separate ethnicity. Tatars are an Asian people and part-mongoloid.

    Huns might indeed have been an Aryan people.
    No, they were not. Read this whole thread.

    I'm glad the Visigoths defeated these Asian invaders of Europe.

    Just a tidbit: The Chinese wall has been built by Aryans, it's defense features facing into China, to contain the Chinese.
    No, it was not. The Ming dynasty built that wall to protect against northern attacks, I thought that was common knowledge.

    Who else could've built those walls in ancient times? Your "Aryan" nomadic tribes? The primitive Huns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Jordanes gave a description of Attilla the Hun that sounds very close to a Mongoloid and nothing at all like a white man:

    Short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with grey; and he had a flat nose and tanned skin, showing evidence of his origin

    Also, if you look at Coon's The Races of Europe, he goes into detail on the description of Hunnic graves in Europe, and the descriptions of Huns and Mongols made by Europeans of the time. All of them show the Mongoloid characteristics of the Huns and Mongols.
    Regardless of Attilla's racial origins, the Huns were hardly a homogenic Nation, but rather a movement, led by Attilla, comprised of several different tribes, including Germanics, Slavics and various Eurasian tribes. Because of the multitude of Nations within their band, they used Gothic as a common tongue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Regardless of Attilla's racial origins, the Huns were hardly a homogenic Nation, but rather a movement, led by Attilla, comprised of several different tribes, including Germanics, Slavics and various Eurasian tribes. Because of the multitude of Nations within their band, they used Gothic as a common tongue.
    Granted. I tend to think of those tribes that allied themselves to the Huns as being similar to the Germanic and Celtic federates that allied themselves to Rome. Serving the same cause, but ethnically and culturally different. When i talk about the Huns i am only talking about the core people led by Attila, not the whole confederation.
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    History is a faked story. As it is said he who owns the past owns the present.

    A Lot of History omits a lot what is inconvenient. It is a twisted story.

    In the black sea area was indeed a high culture look at the city of Arkaim.

    all high civilizations have their origin from the Arya at the black sea.

    If the Chinese built the wall they stupidly put the windows facing China. very clever.

    the hogwash about china building the wall stands no close scrutiny.

    beside that Huang di was a white God, aka Aryan, Aryans where the founders of china's culture. Words about technical things prove they are Aryan origin.

    History puts us down all the time. It's a game of cultural Marxism. to see the difference is an important part to know who we, the descendants of Aryans, are really are.
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