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    How Do Allied Descended Members Feel About Their Ancestors?

    I've a question which I thought about when I read the thread about the English grandfather who disowned his grandson for a nazi salute.

    How do Skadi members who are descendents of Allied soldiers feel about their ancestors? Do you think they were just doing their duty, do you consider they were induced in error by the politicians or were they believing what they were doing? Do you condemn their attitudes or do you feel admiration for their deeds? Is it sometimes a bit dilemmatic?

    Please elaborate on your view.

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    I am proud of them and I always will be. The most wonderful men I have ever known.

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    I respect all my ancestors, regardless of which side they where on. I respect my heathen ancestors as much as my Christian ancestors, to me it makes no difference. It's still their blood that flows throw my veins, and without them I would not be here on earth.

    As for allied ancestors, I have a few, yes, but no direct ancestors. My grandmothers elder brother fought for the allies, to name one example. My grandparents where very young in the war, so they didn't fight anyone. And my great-grandfather made a living from smuggling illegal goods over the German border. He was arrested by the Germans for doing so. A poor man, it was either that, or watch his own children starve.

    I take pride in all my ancestors. I will not judge them, without putting myself in their shoes. And when I do, I always come to the conclusion: if I where in the same situation, I would have probably done as they did. I feel proud of my ancestors. Every single one of them.

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    My Grandfather was of pure German descent and he fought for the USA in world war two. He believed he was doing the right thing and enlisted when he was very young for economic purposes. I only had the utmost respect and love for him.

    You're hard pressed to find anyone guilty about their ancestors that is a nationalist. With nationalism, you're not supposed to feel guilty about your ancestors.
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    Warriors for the Empire will always be heroes. It has always been British policy to stop any single European power from gaining dominance over the continent, such as Napoleon, and this includes the German Reich. By standing entirely alone against Germany they showed they were extremely brave and confident.

    One of many unfortunate side effects of the war was the loss of the colonies. Without these the UK became a state of the US in all but name and we have lost much of the influence we had before. However even if we stayed neutral and kept the colonies, the USA and USSR, the two powers aiming for world domination, would have funded indepentantist terror groups like they did against Portugal in the 1960s (not because they cared about getting them independance but to add them to their own rival economic empires).

    The conscripts for the allies never knew that their nation would turn into a multicultural socialist hell hole, if they had done they would never have fought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vectis View Post
    Warriors for the Empire will always be heroes. It has always been British policy to stop any single European power from gaining dominance over the continent, such as Napoleon, and this includes the German Reich. By standing entirely alone against Germany they showed they were extremely brave and confident.

    The conscripts for the allies never knew that their nation would turn into a multicultural socialist hell hole, if they had done they would never have fought.
    Other than the fact that Churchill was a Zionist and he knew what he was doing preety well, the British (or the men in charge of Britain better put) did not let a European power gain dominance over the continent, rather a non-European one (though they are mostly European converts):the Jews.

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    My grandfather was in special operations. I'm very proud of him. Here is one of the few pictures we have of my grandfather, unfortunately he died before I was born.





    But I sometimes think that if he had seen what Norway has become, there is not much today that resembles a victory. Maybe he would have thought differently about the Nazis. My family got a German shepherd from the Germans, they couldn't use her because she was afraid of shooting after she was close to an explosion. Mom told me the dog was so glad that she came to my family, and one time my grandfather and his friends had gotten drunk and slept outside one guy tried to come to wake them, but he didn't dare because the German shepherd was standing guard.

    When she had puppies, she would punish them if they didn't behave. She would bite them in the neck and slap them against the chair. She was really mean to them. She is buried in the garden of our farm

    Some old Norwegian resistance fighters, one of them has the greatest medal in Norway, formed a group against immigration called FMI. The queen said she did not even deem them worthy to spit on. FMI publishes a pamplet, but they are mostly against muslims and pro-christianity, many of the members are also pro-Israel. Wikipedia on them

    They are known in Norway for chasing away some reds who came to destroy FMI's yearly meeting

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    There was a court case later, because of the use of weapons from the racists. But the court learned that the anti-racists has weapons with them in the bus. Note the old man beating on the bus with his walking stick

    One of the reds is the father of two guys known from a communist rap group in Norway, called "Gatas Parlament".

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    They believed they were doing the right thing. You can never be ashamed of your ancestors...maybe some of their ideas or actions, but no. The politicians on the ally side completely used the public, and the brave soldiers for their own gain. FDR was sure was would get him out of the depression, which it did. Churchill was looking to make a name for himself and further his own agenda, he did not do it to protect Britain, obviously, since it has been well documented Hitler didn't want to fight the U.K., and France, as it has also been documented, went along with Hitler for the most part, while trying to conceal it.

    Besides, being an American, it all boiled down to Pearl Harbor for us. Japan ruined Germany's winning by dragging us in....eventhough FDR wanted to get in, he could not gain the support of Congress or the people until Japan screwed Germany over and bombed Pearl Harbor. I had relatives that served, and I have been in the military, and any military guy will tell you, they didn't do it for the cause, the didn't do it to ''spread democracy'', they didn't do it because of ''duty'', they did it for the guy next to them. So the political reasons don't matter....unless....FDR or Churchill are your ancestors.
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    Two of my great-grandparents fought in the war. One died fighting the Soviets in Czechoslovakia, and left my grandfather fatherless at the age of 1. The other died about 5 years back and he too fought against the Allies. He remained a supporter of fascism and the Third Reich his whole life, as my grandfather still does. My folk were not allies, but if they were, it would be void of respect to spit on their graves.

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    Why should I feel ashamed of my ancestors (maternal grandfather & several uncles) who fought in WWII in the US Armed Forces? They were not policy makers & could not foresee the future in the 21st century. They were responding to the events of their time, just like those of us currently living will respond to the events of our times.

    It has never occured to me that I should feel any shame over my family's involvement in WWII. The victories at Midway, the Coral Sea, Guadalcanal, Okinawa, even the landing at Normandy are something to be proud of, even if the peace was thrown away.

    Some people need to remember that Hitler invited full fledge war with the US in Europe by declaring war on the US. That was his diplomatic blunder. And regardless of the US embargo, Japan was not justified in attacking Pearl Harbor. The War in the Pacific was very much a race war.

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