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    Ought I to be ashamed that, say, my (maternal) grandfather was a sailor in the Pacific helping to clean up the mess at Pearl after the jap sneak attack? Nope. Ought I to be ashamed that gramps had a brother who was a pilot in Europe who fought the Luftwaffe? Nope.

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    I'm not directly descendant from any family members who fought in either world wars. My Great-Grandfathers brother (who was 100% German) fought in WW1 against Germany for the Americans. I think the first world war was a huge mistake. Did he have courage? sure, but was that courage directed for the right goal? no- and I think the leadership of the country (government, media) is mostly at fault for that.

    I'm very much an anti-war person. I have 12, 3x & 4x, grandfathers who fought a foreign invasion for the right to self-govern their own country and for them I greatly respect both their courage and goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vectis View Post
    The conscripts for the allies never knew that their nation would turn into a multicultural socialist hell hole, if they had done they would never have fought.
    Hardly. We would have fought as the Japanese advance threatened that very finality: taken by a foreign race. It was only the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Kokoda campaign that ended Japans plans for Australia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    The War in the Pacific was very much a race war.
    Indeed. As was it's aftermath: the 'Yellow Peril' didn't end in 1945, but was openly and continually in our attention at the highest level for decades afterwards.

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    I don't feel bad about it, I think it's rather interesting.

    I think it's a shame that so many people had to fight and die in a war. Too bad people living in such close proximity couldn't just get along.
    Proud to be Germanic.

    Even though my ancestry is English, Germany is my favorite country.

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    When I was a small child (5 or 6), I was exploring my grandparents closet when I came across a strange leather tube about 3 feet long... it had a wrist strap at one end and about 6 inches of lead poured into the center, at the other.

    The leather was all cracked and dried out, flaky almost like a desert lake bed during a drought, only black.

    I asked my (German) grandmother what it was and she said: ""That was your Grandfather's cudgel, he used it to crawl through the trenches and kill Germans at night in WWI"

    I held that thing in my hand and thought, that old Scot was one bad ass...

    Wish I had it today.

    So, yeah, proud... to have a bad ass in the family.

    My father on the other hand just served in the Occupation of Germany after the war had ended.

    The little people don't have a say in what nations the country goes to war with, they just do their duty.
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    I don't think that we should be ashamed of our ancestors, no matter which side they fought on. That wouldn't be much different than apologizing over slavery... We had many inter-Germanic conflicts in the past.

    Our ancestors believed they were doing the right thing and just being in the service of their country. It wasn't that black and white. The important thing is to look to the future and avoid any more brother wars between Germanics. We can try to lean from our history, but without being ashamed, guilty or belittling our ancestors.

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    F@#king awesome we won, unfortunately we really didn't win (& our ancestors fighting didn't know this at the time) as it provided fertile ground for the rise of cultural Marxism, multiculturalism etc.

    They believed they were fighting for their country (my grandfather in Kokoda against the Japs) and propaganda played a big part (my great-grandfather’s postcards from the WW1 had pictures depicting the so called rape of Belgium on the front). I have heard old veterans disgusted by multiculturalism say things like ‘Hitler was right’ and ‘it looks like we lost the war’.
    Our beauty is our power, our strength. We can’t allow them to change us, to lessen us. I will never grant them that satisfaction, and neither should you!

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    We should never be ashamed of our ancestors. That it ended up a nefarious situation where no Germanic country was a winner is certainly clear. However, our ancestors could not have foreseen that. It is certainly easy for us to judge the events with the knowledge we have now. Regardless which side they fought on in the war, our ancestors were fighting for their country and people. They had the natural instinct to protect it and risk their lives, so we should be proud and honor them.

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