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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    An independent Scotland should share close ties with all its Germanic and Celtic brothers, the move to cooperate more closely with Scandinavia is surely a good move in the right direction, especially in the light of all this 'pan-Celtic' nonsense that's been running rampant in the past decade or two.

    At any rate, it shouldn't come at the detriment of ties with England, as both share a common Anglo-Saxon, Norman and Viking heritage as well as an early Celtic substrate (except that some parts of Scotland also have a later Celtic adstrate via the Gaels coming from Ireland in the 6th-7th century). This should of course also be considered when making alliances.

    Of all the nonsense that the SNP has produced, this actually seems like a good enough idea. Scotland will of course never be able to fully sever ties (especially in the legal system, albeit having its own, much is influenced by English Common Law in addition to Continental Civil Law) with England, but seeking good relations and co-operations with Scandinavians might help cement Scotland into the wider Germanic commonwealth, where it belongs; this could be useful for a later inclusion in a pan-Germanic construct.
    Scotland already has its own legal system and laws, have done for years. The oil and gas fields in scotland all funded by uk money so not entirely scottish property. As for all the other things scotland got planned it will be interesting to see how they will fund it all.

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    I personally believe that this has been in the works for a few decades now because i swear i've seen maps in boxes where England is part of France and Scotland was part of Scandinavia.Maybe i'm just seeing a connection where there isn't one or perhaps what i saw was just a coincidence but i think there could be something more behind why the SNP are pushing for their independence.

    Could this be connected at all to the New World Order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vectis
    Its clear Russia is an enemy.


    Yes, of Israel, of NATO, of UN and nonsense like democrazy. Actually, we better side with them and get rid off all that nonsense too before it's too late. Doesnt mean we have to marry them. They never hated us so much like the socalled "West" hated them, for various, and mostly self-created reasons, or rather cheap excuses to attack Russia for its endless resources. Oh, and Russia isnt Islamic either. In some of the former USSR states (now independent) Islam grows. Much to the dismay of Russians btw. It's also very much a misconception that Russia is "atheist". It's not. It just doesnt have that retarded "western christian all men are equal" BS. The USSR, although they rightfully suppressed the influence on politics through the church (they did not stamp them out), just thought that superstitionists and sheepish believers dont have a place in politics. A rather mature approach. There's something to learn from.

    Then Europe, specially the "Germanic" part of Europe, could see through the smoke screen and understand that Russia might be a much better ally than those who dare to call themselves that today, when they (NATO, UN, EU etc) are in fact our worst enemy. They're leading us into doom, for some bucks of profit - for whom? Cui bono? Follow the money trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfsige View Post
    Scotland already has its own legal system and laws, have done for years.
    I know that, I studied Law in Scotland.

    What I meant is that much of it is influenced by cases and Acts originating south of the River Tweed; also you have the House of Lords as its current highest appeal court, I somehow doubt the last 300 years of laws and/or cases that extended to Scotland will be repealed resp. overruled over night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Þoreiðar View Post
    So Pan-Celticism is 'nonsense', while Pan-Germanicism is not?
    Haven't you heard? Celts don't exist on Skadi. They're just resentful Germanics who go by a different name because they think they're something special.

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    Than where are our Irish and Welsh sections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Haven't you heard? Celts don't exist on Skadi. They're just resentful Germanics who go by a different name because they think they're something special.
    I'd hope not. Especially since Skadi is a forum for Germanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olav View Post
    I'd hope not. Especially since Skadi is a forum for Germanics.
    Nobody is contesting that.
    Skadi, as per status quo, can't seem to grasp the identity of the Celt and his place within European history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    An independent Scotland should share close ties with all its Germanic and Celtic brothers, the move to cooperate more closely with Scandinavia is surely a good move in the right direction, especially in the light of all this 'pan-Celtic' nonsense that's been running rampant in the past decade or two.

    At any rate, it shouldn't come at the detriment of ties with England, as both share a common Anglo-Saxon, Norman and Viking heritage as well as an early Celtic substrate (except that some parts of Scotland also have a later Celtic adstrate via the Gaels coming from Ireland in the 6th-7th century). This should of course also be considered when making alliances.

    Of all the nonsense that the SNP has produced, this actually seems like a good enough idea. Scotland will of course never be able to fully sever ties (especially in the legal system, albeit having its own, much is influenced by English Common Law in addition to Continental Civil Law) with England, but seeking good relations and co-operations with Scandinavians might help cement Scotland into the wider Germanic commonwealth, where it belongs; this could be useful for a later inclusion in a pan-Germanic construct.


    But wasn't that 6th and 7th century Irish influx nordic? I'm not sure , I am asking.

    But I think you're on to something when you mentioned Scotland paving the way for closer Nodic ties, but retaining it's Anglo-Saxon ties. It sounds like a great path to reuniting Northwest Europe, while discarding the baggage of the others.....
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    I think it's good that Scotland is co-operating more with the Nordic countries, but it shouldn't be at the expense of its ties with England. It's a bit sad that Scotland has fallen for this "Pan-Celtic" trend, when they are a Germanic-majority country and have more in common with England than with any other nation. (Of course, it's a bit blurred in the British Isles, since the Celtic and Germanic groups have co-existed there for such a long time.)

    Quote Originally Posted by die Reihenfolge View Post
    But wasn't that 6th and 7th century Irish influx nordic? I'm not sure , I am asking.
    As far as I know, Irish people are not Nordic, so the answer is a clear "no". I don't know how Nordid these Irishmen were, though.

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