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    Cu Chulainn

    I am not really sure, if this is the right board to ask, since Cu Chulainn was probably not a historical person, but i guess people on this board are most likely to know about historical sources. I am looking out for sources on Cu Chulainn , preferably sources i can buy in a good equipped bookshop.
    There won't be humans in 500 years. Enough people choke themselves when they jerk off we gave it a name. We ain't a species made to last.

    Judging by it´s name common sense must once have been a pretty common thing. When and why did that change, so it became the rare treasure it is today???

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    Cuchulain is unlikely to have been an historical figure or at least no more likely than King Arthur or Achilles.

    The Tain (pronounced toyne) also called the cattle raid of Cuailnge would be the main legend in which Cuchulain appears.

    There are a number of translations. The Thomas Kinsella translation is probably the most authentic;

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/T%C3%A1in-Ir...m_cr_pr_sims_t
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    I find similarities between the Riastradh (Warp Spasm) and Berserker rage quite interesting.

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    Cool post I havent read on him in some time. I think I will go pull out some old books andre read them.

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    I am aware he was most likely a figure of myth/saga, but where else do i find people who know a thing or two about historical sources on someone if not here ? Where else could i have posted that question ? It does not really fit into germanic heathenry, and that´s is the only other idea i had where to post it
    So thanks so far for your help. I really love the stories about him ! I stumpled upon them because i love the song "the blood of Cu Chulainn" and so wanted to know the background of the song ^^ I am generally a lover of old sagas and mythology, especially germanic ones of course ^^
    There won't be humans in 500 years. Enough people choke themselves when they jerk off we gave it a name. We ain't a species made to last.

    Judging by it´s name common sense must once have been a pretty common thing. When and why did that change, so it became the rare treasure it is today???

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    The Thomas Kinsella version is the nearest you will be able to get to the original subject matter without going to the trouble of learning old Irish but If you want a version that is easier and perhaps more enjoyable to read you might also consider picking up a copy of "The Hound Of Ulster".In any case it would be no harm to have the latter on hand as a companion volume.

    The Thomas Kinsella version may be the ultimate English translation and retains a lot of the ancient style of the original subject matter but by the same token it makes few concessions to the modern reader in terms of intelligibility, pronunciation guides or contextual information.

    I haven't read The Hound Of Ulster myself but I am familiar with other "re-tellings" and they are often the best place to start if one wants to quickly gain a familiarity with the material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renownedwolf View Post
    I find similarities between the Riastradh (Warp Spasm) and Berserker rage quite interesting.
    I read an article once comparing that same thing.

    The premise was that the Germans and the Celts were like the Greeks and the Romans in that they had a common mythology and culture just diffent names for stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    Cuchulain is unlikely to have been an historical figure or at least no more likely than King Arthur or Achilles.

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    Whilst all I know of Cuchulain is from a Thin Lizzy Song, I wouldn't automatically assume such a figure is unlikely to have existed.

    Whilst indeed feats and heroic deeds would doubtless have been embellished over the years, the original personage probably did exist, it is logically most difficult to originate a legend of a person all your peers know not to exist.

    Case in point being King Authur, one king among the many and long line of Kings England had prior to the Roman Invasion, recorded in the Welsh Chronicles which are in turn verified by other European ancestry that can trace its lineage back to Noah.

    However, those that determine what history should say, rather than what it actually is, would rather us believe such histories are false and that prior to the civilizing effect of the Romans, we where just a bunch of savages living in huts before they arrived.

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    It verifies nothing, tracing a line going back to 'Noah' pinched from 'The Epic of Gilgamesh' was more than likely fabricated to give ruling families more of a basis for justifying their rule as one of 'God's' chosen representatives and shouldn't be taken as truth. If I recall, I read somewhere that Odin is included still in some lineages.

    Maximus, are there any mentions of Berserker types of warriors in Romano-Greek mythology?

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