Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: The BNP's membership dilemma

  1. #1
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Last Online
    Tuesday, March 13th, 2018 @ 09:14 AM
    Status
    Prolonged Absence
    Ethnicity
    Dutch
    Gender
    Posts
    2,668
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    9
    Thanked in
    8 Posts

    Post The BNP's membership dilemma

    It seems the BNP is experiencing increased internal strife. At the moment, the main issue seems to be the general shift towards the centre, and, more specifically, a dilemma regarding membership. The BNP fears legal prosecution if it continues its policy of denying non-Whites membership and Nick Griffin wants to adjust the party's constitution. Tyndall and other hard-core nationalists are strongly opposed to Griffin's propositions however, and maintain that the BNP should remain a party strictly for Whites, by Whites.


    Relevant links:
    BNP Leadership Ponders Changes, Reorganization
    Non-White Membership in the BNP?
    BNP to admit non-white members!


    Tactics or treason? Justified or stupid? Voice your opinion

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Moody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Last Online
    Tuesday, July 10th, 2012 @ 09:18 AM
    Status
    Available
    Ethnicity
    English
    Ancestry
    Albion
    Subrace
    Paleo-Atlantid
    Country
    United Kingdom United Kingdom
    State
    Essex Essex
    Location
    England
    Gender
    Family
    Single adult
    Occupation
    Investigator of Souls
    Politics
    Pan-Germanic Nationalist
    Religion
    Runosophy
    Posts
    1,904
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    12
    Thanked in
    12 Posts

    Post Re: The BNP's membership dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried Augustus
    It seems the BNP is experiencing increased internal strife. At the moment, the main issue seems to be the general shift towards the centre, and, more specifically, a dilemma regarding membership. The BNP fears legal prosecution if it continues its policy of denying non-Whites membership and Nick Griffin wants to adjust the party's constitution. Tyndall and other hard-core nationalists are strongly opposed to Griffin's propositions however, and maintain that the BNP should remain a party strictly for Whites, by Whites.


    Relevant links:
    BNP Leadership Ponders Changes, Reorganization
    Non-White Membership in the BNP?
    BNP to admit non-white members!


    Tactics or treason? Justified or stupid? Voice your opinion
    That's all very well, but when you enter the death system of Democracy and vote-chasing, then you have already compromised.
    For example, how do you stop non-Whites voting for you in elections?
    Would you rather that non-Whites didn't vote for you?
    Last edited by Moody; Thursday, July 8th, 2004 at 05:47 PM. Reason: spelling
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Phlegethon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Last Online
    Monday, April 4th, 2016 @ 11:13 PM
    Gender
    Age
    49
    Posts
    2,820
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    23
    Thanked in
    23 Posts

    Post Re: The BNP's membership dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    For example, how do you stop non-Whites voting for you in elections?
    Heck, why should I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    Would you rather that non-Whites didn't vote for you?
    If you want to achieve anything politically you have to get as many votes as possible. I do not care where they come from. My political programme is not dependant on who actually votes for me. The programme is fixed and people can vote for it or leave it. It's that simple. It is not my job to find out which psychological condition makes non-whites vote for me. It suffices that they do.
    Last edited by Phlegethon; Thursday, July 8th, 2004 at 06:24 PM.
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    FadeTheButcher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Last Online
    Sunday, November 5th, 2006 @ 09:46 PM
    Subrace
    Nordid
    Country
    Confederate States Confederate States
    Location
    Durham, NC
    Gender
    Age
    40
    Family
    Newly wed
    Occupation
    Political Scientist
    Politics
    Racial Communitarian
    Religion
    Neoplatonic
    Posts
    420
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8
    Thanked in
    8 Posts

    Post Re: The BNP's membership dilemma

    They are becoming part of the system.
    The Phora

    "There are no principles; there are only events. There is no good and bad, there are only circumstances. The superior man espouses events and circumstances in order to guide them. If there were principles and fixed laws, nations would not change them as we change our shirts and a man can not be expected to be wiser than an entire nation."
    —Honoré de Balzac

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Phlegethon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Last Online
    Monday, April 4th, 2016 @ 11:13 PM
    Gender
    Age
    49
    Posts
    2,820
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    23
    Thanked in
    23 Posts

    Post Re: The BNP's membership dilemma

    Griffin's explanation is a joke of course. At this stage it's all vague assumptions of what may happen. And of course if such important core policies are concerned one can still sue in the European Human Rights Court in Strasbourg.
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

  6. #6
    Active Funding Member
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Skadi Funding Member
    John Smithwick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Last Online
    @
    Ethnicity
    Anglo-Canadian
    Ancestry
    British/German/French
    Country
    Canada Canada
    State
    Ontario Ontario
    Gender
    Occupation
    National Folk Faith ;)
    Politics
    Ethno-Nationalist
    Religion
    Pagan/Christian/UU
    Posts
    113
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    289
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    81
    Thanked in
    49 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon View Post
    Griffin's explanation is a joke of course. At this stage it's all vague assumptions of what may happen.
    It really worked out well for us (what Griffin feared, did happen):

    BNP 'whites-only' membership rules outlawed

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rules-outlawed

    The British National party was plunged into chaos yesterday, weeks before the general election, when a court ordered it to remove central beliefs and policies about race from its constitution.

    In a landmark injunction at the Central London county court, a judge found that the BNP's membership policy remained discriminatory, even after a direct whites-only clause was removed last month.

    The judge, Paul Collins, ordered the BNP to remove two clauses from its constitution as they were indirectly racist towards non-white would-be members.

    The party also remains banned from signing up new recruits until it satisfies Collins it has changed the constitution, although it said last night that applications to join were being processed again.

    In a further blow to the party's election hopes, it was ordered to pay an estimated £60,000 in legal costs.
    We need a reservation system for our people and our own ethnic-nationalist faith, where we'll have sermons about our people and nations, real history, science, philosophy, etc., in addition to our older religions. Throw in some open bar nights, comedy club hours, music and dance, etc., and it'll be a cracker barrel of good times lol.

  7. #7
    Active Funding Member
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Skadi Funding Member
    John Smithwick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Last Online
    @
    Ethnicity
    Anglo-Canadian
    Ancestry
    British/German/French
    Country
    Canada Canada
    State
    Ontario Ontario
    Gender
    Occupation
    National Folk Faith ;)
    Politics
    Ethno-Nationalist
    Religion
    Pagan/Christian/UU
    Posts
    113
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    289
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    81
    Thanked in
    49 Posts

    The British Faith and Church

    I'm bumping this thread, because I want to complain about the new leader Adam Walker.

    He hasn't posted more than 1-2 videos in the last two years of being the leader (and they were trivial videos about Muslims). His lack of activism lends credibility to the idea that he's being subsidized by the secret service to render the party defunct.

    It was better under "the devil we knew" Griffin (as unforgivable as his remarks about people like Andrew Brons and Jon Bowden were, he should be allowed to return to bring some life back to the party).

    On another note: I ask the BNP to create a new faith for our people. Politics doesn't do much for us. We need community, and we need a faith designed specifically for our tribe and nation.

    Here we see a great BNPer named Nigel Christopher recently attempting to appeal to the masses over politics (a commendable effort but largely futile):



    What we need are speeches/sermons directed towards our folk imbuing them with a new faith and sense of community and duty (The British Faith):

    The British Faith - Skadi Forum
    We need a reservation system for our people and our own ethnic-nationalist faith, where we'll have sermons about our people and nations, real history, science, philosophy, etc., in addition to our older religions. Throw in some open bar nights, comedy club hours, music and dance, etc., and it'll be a cracker barrel of good times lol.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Theunissen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Last Online
    5 Hours Ago @ 04:40 AM
    Ethnicity
    Germanic
    Ancestry
    North Western Europe
    Country
    South Africa South Africa
    State
    Transvaal Transvaal
    Location
    South Africa
    Gender
    Posts
    724
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    312
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    440
    Thanked in
    259 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried View Post
    It seems the BNP is experiencing increased internal strife. At the moment, the main issue seems to be the general shift towards the centre, and, more specifically, a dilemma regarding membership. The BNP fears legal prosecution if it continues its policy of denying non-Whites membership and Nick Griffin wants to adjust the party's constitution. Tyndall and other hard-core nationalists are strongly opposed to Griffin's propositions however, and maintain that the BNP should remain a party strictly for Whites, by Whites.


    Relevant links:
    BNP Leadership Ponders Changes, Reorganization
    Non-White Membership in the BNP?
    BNP to admit non-white members!


    Tactics or treason? Justified or stupid? Voice your opinion
    Weren't there legal threats against the BNP not to "discriminate against non-Whites?

    On the other hand: There were two things wrong with the BNP-Strategy:
    - They tried party-politics BEFORE winning the intellectual and cultural struggle.
    - They tried collecting disgruntled lower class British to form support basis and membership of the party (Without having an upper, educated class structure first).

    Do I need to explain why those were the wrong strategy, guaranteed to fail?!

Similar Threads

  1. My Ethical Dilemma
    By Reshki in forum Law, Ethics, & Morals
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: Friday, September 3rd, 2010, 03:59 PM
  2. I Have a Dilemma
    By InvaderNat in forum Men, Women, & Relationships
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: Monday, June 7th, 2010, 02:42 AM
  3. BNP Membership List Leaked Online
    By Dagna in forum England
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: Monday, November 24th, 2008, 01:40 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •