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    Post Greeks Believe the Germans Owe Them

    Hitler’s men even raided the Greeks’ central bank, forcing them to give Germany a massive ‘war loan’ — one that has never been paid back, more of which later. Economists estimate that if it were repaid today, it could cost the German government £60billion. The memory of that travesty has been reignited this week by Greeks angry at the austerity measures being imposed on them — primarily by Germany as it seeks to stop the euro crisis spinning out of control.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-owe-60bn.html

    The gloves are off! Greek PM prepares for showdown with Merkel and Sarkozy tonight as Europe teeters on the brink of financial disaster
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-Sarkozy.html

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    The Greeks need to take responsibility for themselves and quit expecting handouts. I'm tired of this 'victim' mentality that has infected the world. Everybody thinks they are the entitled ones. The sooner we start saying 'NO' to these people, the better. It's time to make a stand.

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    The ancient (before BC) Greeks & Byzantine Greeks had Germanic slaves. The reparations owed (including interest) would be at least $60 trillion. Not that you should expect the Greeks to ever pay it.

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    Look at it this way:

    Be glad of that 'wrong' feeling you get when you get stuff that you didn't really earn. And be glad of that good feeling after a hard day of work. This is natural to us Germanics and it is one of our most valuable traits.

    Strangely, a lot of non-Germanics and especially non-Europids often have no sense of shame in claiming that they have a right to 'this' and 'that', without ever doing anything to earn this.

    At the moment they think we are the fools to be working hard and giving them stuff for free, but who's laughing last when this system collapses in on itself and there is no one left willing to cough up money for these fools...

    Just let them whine and wait for the rest of us to be fed up to pay for them.
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    Too bad for Greece but they got themselves into this mess. Noone owes them a bailout.
    Proud to be Germanic.

    Even though my ancestry is English, Germany is my favorite country.

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    Pfff, we owe them???

    This nonsense costed Greece some sympathy points now.

    That aside, let's wait how the referendum turns out. Maybe the Greek public (in contrast to the Greek politraitors) is wise enough to reject the whole shit being done to them and Greece leaves the Euro, which is anyway the only viable option for Greece, with or without tons of bail-outs. Then they have time enough to solve their problems, which will be only half as big anyway when they have their own currency back. States default all the time, usually it doesnt generate such a mess though, this is only due to the Euro.

    And I dare to question that it is Germany (maybe =/= Merkel) alone that is behind all the pressure, there is the IWF, the ECB, other banks, Sarkozy and some others who also sing the tune of "if the Euro fails, Europa fails" (which is for one only scaremongering anyway, and secondly not really a reason for concern, but rather a chance, if one is to have a Europe, to rebuild it in a better way - without madness like the Euro (not even the USSR was mad enough to have a common currency)).

    But from the legal standpoint alone, Greece has no way of getting this money, even if it was true that we didnt pay back an imaginary loan. To have a legal standing on that issue, Germany would need a peace treaty, unfortunately (not really), our current government has no legal legitimation to sign such a treaty though, and the 2+4 treaties dont affected that status in any way (otherwise, half the world meanwhile had demanded reparations). So, let Greece scream all they want, I seriously doubt that anyone would offer Germany a peace treaty, because it would also question Germany's membership in the EU and Euro, because like with this, the current government has only "power" over the FRG the state, not over Germany the country, and even less, over the last valid constitution. In turn, the current govt is the wrong address for this demand, because they do not represent the Germany that maybe, maybe not, owes Greece that loan. Apart from that, they'd do everything to prevent Germany from getting a new, valid constitution, and therefore, this will never happen.
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    As much as I adore Greece and the Greek people, there's a term for this sort of pathetic "they owe us" moaning:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...nigger%20whine

    The Germans don't owe the Greeks squat imo. Maybe the Greeks can whine to Obama and he'll bail them out.

    Although if it's really and truly fair I ought to start a protest movement demanding that the Brits owe Americans for all of the tax money that was extorted from us during the colonial days.

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    It's a shame that Blaxis doesn't post much here these days, as I think her "insider's view" on this situation would be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    The ancient (before BC) Greeks & Byzantine Greeks had Germanic slaves. The reparations owed (including interest) would be at least $60 trillion. Not that you should expect the Greeks to ever pay it.
    That is a good idea, actually, and it opens countless possibilities. I also demand that the Danes pay us serious reparations, including interest, for all the taxes they have squeezed out of Scania for several centuries.

    Somalia should also pay reparations to Sweden, as a compensation for all their Somalis befouling our country.

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    How useful to the Greeks to find out about so many atrocities otherwise unheard of:
    The SS indulged their bloodlust on men, women and children alike. While homes and shops blazed around them like some hellish inferno, women were violated and those who were pregnant were stabbed in the guts. Small babies were bayoneted in their cribs. The village priest was beheaded.

    By the time Hitler’s men had left the Greek village of Distomo near the ancient town of Delphi on that bloody day in June 1944, 218 people were dead.

    The Waffen-SS was pleased with its work: the local partisans who had dared to attack a German unit had been taught a bitter lesson in revenge.

    The slaughter at Distomo was such an outrage that, in 2003, even a German Federal Court judge described it as ‘one of the most despicable crimes of World War II’
    But wait, weren't these bayonetting-babies-stories dished up by the British in the first world war, too (For which the British actually did apologize).

    http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.co...nda-false.html


    http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/iss/arch...oons/3-01.html
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    Germany does not pay Greece but jewish banksters who tricked Greece. Germany's wealth is stolen by jews, not by greeks.

    The set-up was long before thought out. Also the theatrics and antics of the politicians are lies, necessary for the fraud.

    Germany does not owe anything to greeks.

    First, the Federal Republic of Germany is NOT the success or of the 3rd (in reality the 2nd) Reich. The Reich still exists but only legally, not functionally. Therefore the Reich might owe something to Greece (which has to be proven) but then the world owes much to Germany, for example the east-german territories, now occupied by Poland, reparation from russians for the attack and killing of german civilians, the same is for England and USA for massive crimes of war.

    I don't mind to pay Greece the pittance if all the other things are restored to the real Germany, not that fake jew-controlled government, which poses as the representation of the german people.
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