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    Quote Originally Posted by Renwein View Post
    "Gaddafi's website" has published his 'last will':
    Not as long as Hitler's, but some of the content sounds familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paraplethon View Post
    That hits the nail on the head.

    One wonders if these 'rebels' will continue the programs in place in Libya such as: citizens were given farmland (not buy - but given), or perhaps whether the deposits of oil proceeds will continue into Libyans accounts? Or Africas best education system - will that remain free?

    Likely not... (forced, by external interests) privatisation and deregulation will more than likely be the go in the new Libya.
    I doubt it, after the damage to infrastructure being done. Libya's citizens will likely be taxed heavily for reconstruction and those taxes will remain in place afterwards, while benefits are going to be scrapped. "Privatisastion" and "Deregulations" as euphemisms are funny. In other countries with similar cases those resources have been funneled more or less directly to certain companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Skannon View Post
    The official USA's response to the killing and abuse of a 70 year old POW:

    Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died
    Hillary Clinton: Shock(ing) and Awe(ful).

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    An article by Thierry Meyssan from Voltairenet.org .

    Now I understand better the barbaric circumstances of his death..

    The lynching of Muhammar Ghadaffi

    The death of Muammar al-Gaddafi was hailed with an explosion of joy in all the government palaces of Western countries, but not by the Libyan people. For Thierry Meyssan, this militarily useless murder was perpetrated by the Empire not only as an example, but also to deconstruct Libya’s tribal society.

    On Thursday, 20 October 2011, at 13h30 GMT, the Libyan National Transitional Council announced the death of Muammar el-Qaddafi. Though confused, initial reports appeared to indicate that a convoy of cars seeking to leave besieged Sirte was blocked and partly destroyed by NATO fire. Survivors took shelter in drainage pipes. Wounded, Gaddafi was reportedly captured by the Tiger brigade of Misrata tribe and lynched.

    The body of the "Guide" of the Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya was not preserved in his hometown of Sirte, or taken to Tripoli, but transported by the Misrata as a trophy to their namesake city.

    The Misrata Tribe, which had long been reluctant to choose sides and is virtually absent from the CNT, will ultimately have penetrated Tripoli after its destruction by NATO, and will have lynched Muammar al-Gaddafi after the bombing of his convoy by NATO. It has even moved his body in his town to celebrate his triumph. In July, the "Guide" had cursed the Misrata, urging them to leave for Istanbul and Tel Aviv, alluding to the Turkish Jewish origins of the tribe which later converted to Islam.

    A barrage of pre-scripted comments was instantly unleashed by the Atlanticist media to demonize Muammar el-Gaddafi, thereby obscuring the barbaric circumstances of his death.

    The main Coalition leaders welcomed the death of their enemy as marking the end of "Operation Unified Protector." In doing so, they have implicitly admitted that its objective was not to implement Security Council Resolution 1973, but to overthrow a political system and to kill the leader, even if the assassination of a serving head of State is strictly prohibited by U.S. law and universally condemned.

    In addition, the lynching of Muammar al-Gaddafi shows NATO’s reluctance to turn him over to the ICC which would not have been in a better position to sentence him for crimes against humanity than the Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia which could not prove Slobodan Milosevic guilty, despite two years of prosecution.

    In the deluge of mud spilled by the Western media to tarnish his memory, the same false accusations are repeated over and over, showing in fact that the media hold very little incriminating evidence that could have been used against him.

    A case in point is the La Belle discotheque bombing in Berlin (5 April 1986, three killed), which was used as a pretext by the Reagan administration to bomb Gaddafi’s palace and kill his daughter (April 14, 1986, at least 50 dead). At the time, German prosecutor Detlev Mehlis (the same one who two decades later would rig the investigation into the assassination of Rafik al-Hariri) relied on the testimony of Eter Mushad to indict a Libyan diplomat and his accomplice Mohammed Amair. However, German television channel ZDF subsequently discovered that Mushad Eter was not only a false witness but also a real CIA agent, while bomb planter Mahammed Aamir was a Mossad agent [1].

    Another example is the Lockerbie bombing (21 December 1988, 270 killed): the investigators identified the owner of the suitcase containing the bomb and the timer thanks to the testimony of a Maltese shopkeeper who had sold the pair of trousers also located in the booby-trapped suitcase. At that point, the Scottish justice system brought charges against two Libyan agents, Abdel Basset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, while the Security Council took sanctions against Libya. In the end, to get the sanctions lifted, Gaddafi agreed to extradite the two agents (the first was sentenced to life imprisonment and the second was acquitted) and pay $ 2.7 billion in compensation, while continuing to proclaim his complete innocence. Subsequently, in August 2005, the chief Scottish investigator declared that the main piece of evidence, the bomb timer, had been planted at the crime scene by a CIA agent. Then, the expert who had analyzed the timer for the court admitted he had manufactured it himself before the CIA "dropped it off." Finally, the Maltese shopkeeper admitted having received $ 2 million for bearing false witness. The Scottish authorities decided to review the case, but the health of Abdel Basset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi did not allow it.

    The current disinformation campaign also includes an installment on the lifestyle of the deceased, classified as sumptuous, and the amount of his stashed-away Pharaonic fortune. But all those who approached Muammar al-Gaddafi, or who simply visited his family home and residence after they were bombarded can attest that he lived in an environment equal to that of the middle class in his country, far from the flashy style of Planning Minister Mahmoud Jibril. Similarly, none of the states that for months have been tracking Gaddafi’s hidden fortune has been able to find it. Any money that was seized belonged to the Libyan government and not to the "Guide".

    On the other hand, the media have failed to mention the only international arrest warrant against Muammar al-Gaddafi, issued by Interpol before the NATO offensive. He was accused by the Lebanese justice of having disposed of Imam Moussa Sadr and his companions (1978). This media oversight can be explained by the fact that the kidnapping was sponsored by the United States who wanted to get rid of the Shi’a clergyman before allowing Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, also a Shi’a Muslim, to return to Iran, to prevent Sadr from spreading the Ayatollah’s revolutionary influence to Lebanon.

    The Atlanticist media have also overlooked the criticism that anti-imperialist Resistance organizations, and indeed ourselves, addressed at Muammar al-Gaddafi concerning his frequent compromises with Israel.

    For my part, I can attest that, until the Battle of Tripoli, the "Guide" had continued to negotiate with Israeli envoys in the hope of buying Tel Aviv’s protection. But I must also attest that, despite my strong reservations about his international policy, and the complete file about me in this regard that was given to him in July by the French DCRI in an attempt to have me arrested, Muammar al-Gaddafi gave me his trust and asked me to help his country assert its rights at the United Nations [2] - a behavior which one would hardly expect from a tyrant.

    Nor have the Atlanticist media ever mentioned my condemnation of Libya’s interference in French political life, including the illegal financing of the presidential election campaigns of Nicolas Sarkozy and Ségolène Royal. The "Guide" had in fact authorized his brother-in-law Abdallah Senoussi to corrupt the two leading candidates in exchange for an amnesty pledge or for putting pressure on the French justice system to close his criminal record [3].

    But above all, the Atlanticist media have failed to mention the major achievements of the "Guide": the overthrow of the puppet monarchy imposed by the Anglo-Saxons, the removal of foreign troops, the nationalization of hydrocarbons, the construction of the Man Made River (the largest irrigation project in the world), the redistribution of oil revenues (he turned one of the poorest in the world into the richest in Africa), generous asylum to Palestinian refugees and development aid on an unprecedented scale to the Third World (Libya’s development aid was more important than all the G20 states put together).

    The death of Muammar el-Qaddafi will change nothing at the international level. The important event was the fall of Tripoli, bombarded and captured by NATO - undoubtedly the worst war crime of this century - followed by the penetration of the Misrata tribe to control the capital. In the weeks that preceded the Battle of Tripoli, the overwhelming majority of Libyans took part, Friday after Friday, in anti-NATO, anti-CNT and pro-Gaddafi rallies. Now, their country has been destroyed and they are governed by NATO and its CNT puppets.

    However, the death of the "Guide" will have an enduring traumatic effect on Libya’s tribal society. By killing the leader, NATO destroyed the incarnation of the principle of authority. It will take years and much more violence before a new leader will be recognized by all the tribes or the tribal system is replaced by another form of social organization. In this sense, the death of Muammar al-Gaddafi opened a period of Iraqization or Somaliazation in Libya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paraplethon View Post
    Hillary Clinton: Shock(ing) and Awe(ful).
    A similar video should be released of Monica Lewinski.

    He saw...He came....He lied.

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    I think Hilary Clinton looks like she would be saying I came, I saw, and I ate everything in sight she is looking quite plump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Skannon View Post
    What a total disgusting Arab chaos. I've watched the news for a long time, and I've never seen a film sequence where the rebels behave in a disciplined way. Never once have I seen this rabble have any semblance of organization, under any form of leadership. Everything I've ever seen was a chaotic and screaming Muslim mob who fire bullets into the air and are too disorganized to fight properly unless NATO bombs everything in their way. Never, ever have they behaved like anything that remotely resembles a military formation, and they seem to lack competent leadership apart from Al-Qaeda.

    I take back what I said about Gaddafi earlier. Once I saw this, I'm convinced that the rebels will be even worse. For all his eccentric behavior, the Colonel was a stable and wise ruler compared to these Muslim baboons. Well done, NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfadur View Post
    What a total disgusting Arab chaos. I've watched the news for a long time, and I've never seen a film sequence where the rebels behave in a disciplined way. Never once have I seen this rabble have any semblance of organization, under any form of leadership. Everything I've ever seen was a chaotic and screaming Muslim mob who fire bullets into the air and are too disorganized to fight properly unless NATO bombs everything in their way. Never, ever have they behaved like anything that remotely resembles a military formation, and they seem to lack competent leadership apart from Al-Qaeda.

    I take back what I said about Gaddafi earlier. Once I saw this, I'm convinced that the rebels will be even worse. For all his eccentric behavior, the Colonel was a stable and wise ruler compared to these Muslim baboons. Well done, NATO.
    He should think himslef lucky he was never captured by the likes of Prince Johnson.......or they would have eaten him.

    liberia

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    He should think himslef lucky he was never captured by the likes of Prince Johnson.......or they would have eaten him.
    The capture and killing of Samuel Doe by Prince Johnson (and Charles Taylor) was also what came to my mind, when I saw the images of Gaddafi's capture, torture and death.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    January 2011. UNHRC:

    http://www2.ohchr.or...A-HRC-16-15.pdf

    ”In a footnote of that report, there is a list of countries that praised Colonel Gaddafi and the Libyan Jamahiriya (state of the masses), in support of the General Assembly Human Rights Council’s decision to bestow this award upon Colonel Gaddafi. I simply present the list. The reader can look at the list and make his or her own judgement regarding the credibility level, or perceived credibility level, of any of the particular countries listed:

    Denmark, China, Italy, The Netherlands, Mauritania, Slovenia, Nicaragua, The Russian Federation, Spain, Indonesia, Sweden, Norway, Ecuador, Hungary, South Africa, The Phillippines, Maldives, Chile, Singapore, Germany, Australia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Angola, Nigeria, Congo, Burundi, Zambia, Rwanda, Burkina Faso, Senegal, Cote d’Ivoire, Djibouti, Zimbabwe.”

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