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    Interesting and very warlike and nomadic Germanic tribe. I can remember reading one instance where a Gothic horde of approximately 100,000 Goths crossed over into Roman territory towards the end of the Roman Empire for battle, imagine having to deal with that!
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    The Goths are intresting, they were allied with the Romans then they counquered the Romans

    I beleive they are the only tribe to say they sacked both Rome and Constantinople

    They also built massive naval fleets on the Aegan and Black sea

    Intresting note is the Romans used the Goths to fight the Franks, then later they hired the Franks to fight the Goths--but then both tribes eventually broke the Rman empire in the west

    Two national Hero's of Spain were Gothic or of Gothic descent El Cid and Pelagius (Pelayo)
    Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
    Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
    Where is the hand on the harp-string, and the red fire glowing?
    They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
    The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeekingInfo View Post
    Hi

    First of all, I'm sorry to post under a pseudonym, but this is a controversial website and there's plenty of idiots out there.

    I'm looking for information about the goths, the Visigoths in particular. You see, as a Catalan, this shouldn't be something that awakens my curiosity; but my surname is of gothic origin, and a word related to warfare. Also, according to 23andMe my haplogroup is I, which is very uncommon in Catalonia.

    I'd like to ask you any info you have on goths, books you recommend, anything, I'd be very grateful. Also, does anyone recognize this symbol? (I rendered it here by striking [ s] [ /s] a Pi symbol ∏). My family's coat of arms is this red symbol on a yellow background.





















    The inner mysteries of the goths - by nigel pennick is a good book - though mainly deals with the gothic runes.

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    I wish Theodoric was as widely remembered as Charles. Why are the Franks better reputed than the Goths? The Vatican press tried to write off Arian greatness and play up Popery in the relationship between the "Holy Mother Church" and its "First Daughter".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baorn View Post
    I wish Theodoric was as widely remembered as Charles. Why are the Franks better reputed than the Goths? The Vatican press tried to write off Arian greatness and play up Popery in the relationship between the "Holy Mother Church" and its "First Daughter".
    Well, it could be that whole saving Europe from the Moors thing for Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammish View Post
    Well, it could be that whole saving Europe from the Moors thing for Charles.
    Except that wasn't Charlemagne, but his grandfather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baorn View Post
    Except that wasn't Charlemagne, but his grandfather.
    I thought you were referring to the Hammer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

    Also, didn't Theodoric destroy all those Greek statues he didn't like, or was that Alaric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammish View Post
    I thought you were referring to the Hammer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

    Also, didn't Theodoric destroy all those Greek statues he didn't like, or was that Alaric?
    I'm not sure who, but I know the Vandals got their name for a reason.

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