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    Columbus Day has nothing to do with the destruction of our Germanic heritage, and the Norse settlement of North America has nothing to do with our national heritage.

    Let's shift our attention to real problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothhammer View Post
    And their whining gains them ground on the political field everyday.
    You want us to start whining? You want us to bring ourselves down to the level of the silly "minorities"? You want us to play by the rules of this horrible system designed to destroy us?

    Our ancestors (including Leif Eriksson) didn't whine about things. They got things done.



    But seriously guys, do you ever expect our government or schools to acknowledge/teach the truth (let alone useful facts)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley View Post
    It was Columbus whose voyages ultimately led to the British colonizing North America and the subsequent founding of our nation.
    ...which led to them bringing hordes of slaves over to grow tobacco for Newport Lights and cotton for South Pole t-shirts which their progeny love oh so much...

    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    Leif Erikson Day

    Conveniently, it coincides with Columbus Day.
    I think that's because of Pres. LBJ or something... he recognized that fact Nords were here first and made it Leif Erikson day as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilderinc View Post
    You want us to start whining? You want us to bring ourselves down to the level of the silly "minorities"? You want us to play by the rules of this horrible system designed to destroy us?

    Our ancestors (including Leif Eriksson) didn't whine about things. They got things done.



    But seriously guys, do you ever expect our government or schools to acknowledge/teach the truth (let alone useful facts)?
    What he calls whining I consider fighting for a voice, and I refuse to sit by as the minorities steal ours if favor of rewriting history to make themselves feel like they did something. The blacks, the arabs, the mexicans, the asians, and the others will wonder why these "crackers" care so much, but if we tried to rid ourselves of fake holidays like "martin luther king day" because it's existance is an affront to us, they'd get furious and call us racist.

    No. I don't expect our schools and government to aknowledge/ teach the truth as long as those that know the truth let lies spread cause they're concerned the minorities will accuse them of whining.
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    Happy Leif Ericson day!!!
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    The Viking settlements in Newfoundland weren't effective in the long run and didn't contribute to the history of settlement of the Americas by Europeans. Columbus' voyages and settlements let loose the floodgates of Europeans onto American soil, ergo, why were celebrate it. Not because the Jew-Run Liberal media hates Germanic people.
    It's a pretty fallacious statement to say that Vikings "first" made it to the Americas. Before Columbus, yes, but there have been multiple settlements by various peoples throughout history, Amerindians for example. And please refrain from telling the the "Red-haired Giants" claim, I'm talking solely about the dominant culture..

    Skadi German"ic"o-centrism can be a serious intellectual downfall.

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    Well, Americans should definitely have a celebration in remembrance of Leif Erikson because he was the first European who got there, after all. I'd put it on a different date than Columbus Day, to emphasize its importance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    The Viking settlements in Newfoundland weren't effective in the long run and didn't contribute to the history of settlement of the Americas by Europeans. Columbus' voyages and settlements let loose the floodgates of Europeans onto American soil, ergo, why were celebrate it.
    Indeed. That's why I'd also keep Columbus Day as a public holiday. Because it was his voyage to the Americas that resulted in the permanent connection between the New World and the Old - and, eventually, mass movement of European peoples which created the USA. That's the main reason why Columbus has been more remembered than Erikson.

    The Vikings did make the voyage there first, but their small settlement in Vinland had no major impact on the Americas as a whole. It did not change the course of human history. If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it still make a sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karolvs View Post
    Instead of being "America" after the wrong explorer, we should be Vinland.
    The Naming of America

    Columbus Day does commemorate the beginning of a continuous connection between Europe & the New World, the beginning of the "Atlantic Age". The only negative thing about Columbus Day is that in many parts of the US it is an Italian pride day, as though Italians had anything to do with the founding of any of the current nations of the Western Hemisphere. It is not even certain that Columbus was Italian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    It is not even certain that Columbus was Italian.
    I always thought he was Genoese. But anyways, Columbus being Italian or not doesn't even matter one bit - it was a Spanish expedition to the New World, financed and organized by the Spanish royalty. The individual Christopher Columbus could have been anything.

    as though Italians had anything to do with the founding of any of the current nations of the Western Hemisphere.
    Well, it was the Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucchi who named the entire place "America" after himself. But yes, apart from that, Italy had nothing to do with the founding of the nations.

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    Strange, if Columbus is the one and only true "discoverer" of America, then why is it America? After Amerigo Vespucci? Hmmmm, again, it is an example of giving credit where credit is not due. And I take issue with the Idea that Columbus' trip is what led to a permanent settlement of English 117 years later. After all, Columbus did lead to the settlement of the outlying islands, of South America, of Mexico, and eventually, maybe Florida's settlement can be attributed to him, however, not the English settlements of the east coast that came a full 100 years after him. So come on, quit trying to argue just for arguments sake. If Columbus opened the "floodgates" as you say, then it would have happened a long time before it did.

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