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    Thor's Goats

    Does anyone here know what breed or breeds Thor's goats are? Also, has anyone ever tried driving a goat chariot or know where you could go to learn how to harness and drive a goat ??? Where do you purchase a goat harness and cart and approx. how much would this cost? Is it fun?

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    Not sure what breed the goats are, not sure it ever says in the lore or sagas. As for can goats be used for that purpose... yes. Attached below are a few links.

    http://workinggoats.com/?id=210

    https://www.llamaproducts.com/index....ctList&cat=1.4

    We have goats here, 2 males, and the dwarf would probably pull a small cart. Our Nubian is too pig headed and a ass to boot to ever pull a cart. He'd fight you all day long trying to put a harness on him.

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    Probably something like this Norwegian Goat..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Asagirl View Post
    Does anyone here know what breed or breeds Thor's goats are? Also, has anyone ever tried driving a goat chariot or know where you could go to learn how to harness and drive a goat ??? Where do you purchase a goat harness and cart and approx. how much would this cost? Is it fun?
    I don't think Thor's goats would be any kind of normal breed considering he's a god and that he and a peasant family ate them and then brought them back to life with their bones and all that. As far as symbolism and the means by which these goats would be represented in the lore goes, I'd assume the Norgwegian goat or something similar would be appropriate, despite there not being any direct and detailed description of the goats in either the Prose or Poetic Eddas.

    I'm not certain goat harnesses can be bought and I'm not sure goats can be driven but then, maybe I'm incorrect on this. I'm not certain goats are the right animal for dragging chariots around either but maybe you can find something somewhere. Goatkarting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyfing View Post
    Probably something like this Norwegian Goat..
    Why a Norwegian goat? It could also be a Dutch goat or a German goat..
    I mean, Why should Donar go to Norway to get his goats, while he had his own goats right here in the Netherlands, Or Germany
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    Yeah, on second thought they must have been a couple of those Thrudheim goats..



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    Heidrun is a primeaval goat, eating the leaves of laeradr-tree and producing mead for the einherjar.

    the goat has therefore a mystical meaning, not necessarily a 'realistic' one.



    The goat has been transformed by christians into the devil.

    the cats of the Goddess Freya ended up as the animal of witches. (also as the proverbial black cats, being used in some sort of magic connected to Freya).

    So with goats one has to leave christianity behind and look with the eyes of our prechristian ancestors.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Snorri, of course, elaborates on this with utmost clarity and foresight, hope it helps:

    "On The Breed of Thors Goats:
    T'was in the olden days of when the world was still young, that Asathor was to be in the sticky situation of having a cart, and yet no horse nor oxen to drive it. He went to the market, and found there two beasts he was particularly fond of. A rather tar-skinned and hooknosed dwarf was present, willing to sell them to the son of Odin for a decent price, and said he had manufactered them out of the finest bars of gold- personally mined by him, nine worlds beneath the world tree. Thor offered him three nights with fair Freyja and three skins of otter in exchange for the goats, seeing as the dwarf could use a good lay. It is said to have been a sight seldomly forgotten, when red-bearded Thor realised he had been fooled: For under the thin layer of cheap gold paint, the bucks he had purhcased were nothing apart from regular Nigerian Dwarf Goats. Or Capra africanus aegagrus hircus dwarfus, as learned men have come to call them."

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    I have goats and a goat harness, though I have never put them together. Goats can be trained. It would need to start early in there life, and they would need a lot of human contact. I have driven horses and oxen, goats just don't have the potential to do much work so I haven't bothered. Maybe in the next couple of years the kids will want to train one. I have a hard time imagining two goats harnessed together.

    An old farmer around here has pictures from when he used to drive a cart pulled by goat to go to the mail box @ a 1/4 mile away.
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    Thors goats

    Always wondered why Thor did not have a more noble animal!!! i always find goats a rathed daft animal, and i do know about goats as i used to bred them!!!

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