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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    When you are talking unwanted pregnancies .... are you meaning:
    A.) unwanted to women?
    B.) unwanted to men?
    C.) unwanted to both (at the same time)?

    If only C.) how to call A.) and B.)?



    Yes....and there is one reason and one reason only ... why hormonal methods are not developed to men by pharmaceutical industry (in any larger scale). And that reason is that men would never ever accept eat those.

    That's why I will personally not accept any comments or moralizations from mens' side on this topic. More like I'll show middle finger to those.
    Being 3 times your age I think I know a little more about this subject than you and your comments are not very 'ladylike', are they?
    Not everyone wants a child, whether they be men or women (or both) or they may not wish to have more than 1 or perhaps 2. From a personal perspective I am glad that I have only one child because I cannot stand children. I am also glad that I had a daughter and not a son as most boys behave in a feral way, regardless of their background.

    Finnish Swede
    Oh, we should also ban the sex only to times then women wants that ... as they want it more rarely than men.

    And we should make buying of sex as a criminal action ... and set high penalties on that and even much higher to any kind of sexual harassments.

    Fine for me. Happy life men. Now lets go and ban the birth control...
    If a man wishes to enter into a transaction with a prostitute then that is his business; no one else's. Thankfully we are no longer living in a Christian Europe and people can exercise their hard fought for freedoms without the shavelings' interference.
    As far as birth control is concerned the vast majority of women in the west use it and would resist any attempt for this convenience to be taken away from them. It prevents unwanted pregnancies.

    Huginn ok Muginn Pregnancies are today unwanted because people are brainwashed against being family-oriented... by guess who.
    You are crediting 'you know who' with an awful lot of influence. It would appear that you believe native Europeans are little more than puppets or 'victims' to be manipulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    Being 3 times your age I think I know a little more about this subject than you and your comments are not very 'ladylike', are they?
    3 times older? Now I know why you're angry/bitter. I just don't get why this particular thread concerns you at all ... especially as you put it .... you don't even like kids.

    Ladylike? Only to those who earns that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    If a man wishes to enter into a transaction with a prostitute then that is his business; no one else's.
    Laws differs. But we were more talking about what should be done .... not how the matters are at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    3 times older? Now I know why you're angry/bitter. I just don't get why this particular thread concerns you at all ... especially as you put it .... you don't even like kids.

    Ladylike? Only to those who earns that.


    Laws differs. But we were more talking about what should be done .... not how the matters are at the moment.
    I have produced a child. How many have you had? Thus my opinion is relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Oh, we should also ban the sex only to times then women wants that ... as they want it more rarely than men.

    And we should make buying of sex as a criminal action ... and set high penalties on that and even much higher to any kind of sexual harassments.

    Fine for me. Happy life men. Now lets go and ban the birth control...
    I have a better idea. Theres a guaranteed method of birth control. It's called the woman keeps her legs shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    I have a better idea. Theres a guaranteed method of birth control. It's called the woman keeps her legs shut.
    How about men keeping their trousers up?

    Oh wait ... I have one even better ... men could just go and cut their ''wires''. That is pretty easy and quick clinical operation. No risky at all.

    Problem solved & case closed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Yes....and there is one reason and one reason only ... why hormonal methods are not developed to men by pharmaceutical industry (in any larger scale). And that reason is that men would never ever accept eat those.
    Yes and? Of course they would not accept to eat them. No sane person would. I would not either. I have never ever taken the pill in my entire life. A man who refuses to take such hormones would be described as very intelligent by me (at least in this particular issue).

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    That's why I will personally not accept any comments or moralizations from mens' side on this topic. More like I'll show middle finger to those.
    Huh?!? Are you serious? Just because men would never accept to eat hormone pills, you don't accept opinions from them on that topic?? That's really rude to say, men can have their opinions too, especially if they are intelligent enough to refuse to take hormone pills. If a man is of the opinion that the pill is bad for women's health and shouldn't be taken by them, I would completely agree with him. And if a man says women should always take the pill so he can whore around without any consequences, I would simply not want to have anything to do with such a man anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Birth control should be banned. Not just because of moral issues but because the hormones leak into the water supply.
    Hormonal birth control should be banned, that's correct. But other birth control methods (like barrier methods) are fine and sometimes needed by couples to space pregnancies and not have children too close together. Our youngest child is 2 months old now and I really don't want another baby yet. I still need to recover a bit and enjoy the time with my youngest before having another child. I already have my menstrual cycle again (even though I'm exclusively breastfeeding and not giving any formula) and that's why my husband and I definitely need contraception at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Oh, we should also ban the sex only to times then women wants that ... as they want it more rarely than men.
    That is already the case. Otherwise rape would be legal and thankfully it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    Yes and? Of course they would not accept to eat them. No sane person would. I would not either. I have never ever taken the pill in my entire life. A man who refuses to take such hormones would be described as very intelligent by me (at least in this particular issue).


    Huh?!? Are you serious? Just because men would never accept to eat hormone pills, you don't accept opinions from them on that topic?? That's really rude to say, men can have their opinions too, especially if they are intelligent enough to refuse to take hormone pills. If a man is of the opinion that the pill is bad for women's health and shouldn't be taken by them, I would completely agree with him. And if a man says women should always take the pill so he can whore around without any consequences, I would simply not want to have anything to do with such a man anyway.
    Nah ... you missed the point.

    Nope, men would't eat those, but too many of them have passive ways forced to women eat those ... decades. As no men will want to use condom etc. in their relationships (one night stands are different issue). So to avoid the unwanted pregnancies ... men leaves that matter totally to womens' responsible and still asking sex more often than women.

    What ones wants and what ones are doing are not in balance. That's what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    How about men keeping their trousers up?

    Oh wait ... I have one even better ... men could just go and cut their ''wires''. That is pretty easy and quick clinical operation. No risky at all.

    Problem solved & case closed!
    And people wonder why NorthCuckiStan is in the state it's in. Western civilization has withstood wars, the black death, muslim invasions and within 100 years of women getting the vote and it's ready to collapse. Women were never allowed to control their own
    sexuality in the past now we know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Nah ... you missed the point.

    Nope men would't eat those, but too many of them have passive ways forced to women eat those...decades. As no men will want to use condom etc. in their relationship (one night stands are different issue). So to avoid the unwanted pregnancies ... men leaves that matter totally to womens' responsible and asking still sex more often than women.
    No man can force a woman to take the pill. If I was together with a man who tried to force me to take the pill and refuses to use other methods, that's the moment he wouldn't be my man any longer. No-one forces a woman to take the pill and also, no-one forces a woman to have sex with or without a condom (rape is still illegal).

    And not all men would ask their women to take the pill. My husband wouldn't. We have three small children together with our youngest being only 2 months old and he also says that another child wouldn't be good right now and we still need to wait a bit before having another, but he would also never ask me to use a contraception method that is bad for me and my health (like the pill). And it is clear to him and me that this is the responsibility of us both together - not just mine. It is important for a woman to look for and marry a man who is mature and responsible in these issues.

    Why are you so bitter? Have you had bad experiences with irresponsible and immature men? That's bad but I recommend you to take the time and keep on looking for a good man - it's worth it. Really, I speak from experience, it's worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    And people wonder why NorthCuckiStan is in the state it's in. Western civilization has withstood wars, the black death muslim invasions and 100 years of women getting the vote and it's ready to collapse. Women were never allowed to control their own
    sexuality in the past now we know why.
    And there is absolutely nothing what you can do about that .

    And if you meant Sweden as NorthCuckiStan, then I think I know the history of that country better than you do incl. what have been men vs. women politicians roles in last 30 - 40 years.

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