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    Israel and the Upcoming Nuclear War!

    One possible scenario in the near future..

    Israel and the Upcoming Nuclear War!

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    Gordon Duff has made an interesting assessment here. Time will naturally tell if he's right.

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    I don't trust Gordon Duff. I forget why. (I'll try to remember, if anybody is interested.)

    The main piece of incorrect information in this essay of Duff's is the idea that Gadaffi is some kind of ally of Israel. What a joke! France and Britain and the USA are allies of Israel, and they just ganged up to put an end to Gadaffi's rule. How stupid are we supposed to be to think that the truth is the complete opposite to what we have just seen happen?

    And the idea that Israel is on the outer in the West, and is being cut loose, is laughable. If that were true, Israel would currently be short a few nuclear weapons, having used them to teach a lesson to those who betrayed it.

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    Turkey is not going to wage a war against Israel. It is just not going to happen. In spite of what Duff seems to think, Turkey's ambitions do lie in closer ties with Europe and the U.S. Starting a War with Israel would end those aspirations forever.
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    To a certain degree this does seem to be a bit of wishful thinking, but he is definitely right about at least one thing: the significant decrease of American military power in the region. China has no desire to fund our military through loans, especially now that we are starting to compete for oil in the same part of the world. The economic situation here in the US is as bad as it has been since the Great Depression, to think that we are going to be able to continue maintaining our heavy military presence in the middle east or even Europe much longer is laughable. Duff is exactly right when he says that the alternative is debt denial, something that would destroy the world economy overnight.

    With the US basically out of the equation in the middle east Israel is going to find itself in a tough position, this fact seems inevitable. This will probably just increase the problem of Zionism however, because these Israelis are going to move somewhere else, probably en masse. I would guess it will be in the US, but the UK might make a better strategic location from which to continue their quest to enslave humanity.

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    With the US basically out of the equation in the middle east Israel is going to find itself in a tough position, this fact seems inevitable. This will probably just increase the problem of Zionism however, because these Israelis are going to move somewhere else, probably en masse. I would guess it will be in the US, but the UK might make a better strategic location from which to continue their quest to enslave humanity.
    Personally, I don't see this as a likely scenario. I think that once they realise the game is up, those crazy Zionists will try and take out as many other countries as they can. As far as they're concerned, if Israel goes down it's the end of the world!

    Check this out ...


    Here's a little snippet, just to whet the appetite;

    "Noted Israeli military historian Martin Karfeld stated that Israel could find itself one day forced to exterminate the European continent using all kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt its demise neared, stressing that Israel also considers Europe a hostile target".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent View Post
    would guess it will be in the US, but the UK might make a better strategic location from which to continue their quest to enslave humanity.
    God I hope not but then they have been getting EU passports at an increased rate in the last year. Also last time I was in Stansted I had to joke it was a Jewport rather than an airport as in two hours of waiting 80% of all the people I could see where Jews.

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    Not to argue with you, just adding some details

    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent
    To a certain degree this does seem to be a bit of wishful thinking, but he is definitely right about at least one thing: the significant decrease of American military power in the region. China has no desire to fund our military through loans, especially now that we are starting to compete for oil in the same part of the world. The economic situation here in the US is as bad as it has been since the Great Depression, to think that we are going to be able to continue maintaining our heavy military presence in the middle east or even Europe much longer is laughable. Duff is exactly right when he says that the alternative is debt denial, something that would destroy the world economy overnight.
    It's not just in the middle east where the Imperium eats up itself:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chalmers Johnsen - The Sorrow of Empire
    The Manpower Report is the more complete of the two in its worldwide coverage, but the BSR is critically important for two reasons. First, for every listed site it gives an estimated "plant replacement value" (PRV) in millions of dollars. Second, it gives details on some 725 foreign bases in thirty-eight countries, of which it defines 17 as "large installations" (having a PRV greater than $1.5 billion), 18 as "medium installations" (having a PRV between $800 million and $1.5 billion), and 690 as "small installations" (having a PRV of less than $800 million). According to the Department of Defense, "The PRV represents the reported cost of replacing the facility and its supporting infrastructure using today's costs (labor and material) and standards (methods and codes) ."
    Although one must doubt the accuracy of any such estimates, partic-
    ularly given the Pentagon's record of incompetent accounting, they are nonetheless useful for making comparisons. Thus, according to Pentagon specialists, Ramstein Air Force Base near Kaiserslautern, Germany, the largest NATO air base in Europe, has a PRV of $2,458.8 million; whereas Kadena Air Force Base in Okinawa, the largest U.S. facility in East Asia, has a PRV nearly twice as large, at $4,758.5 million (and its adjoining Kadena Ammunition Storage Annex adds another $964.3 million). These are astronomical sums even though they probably underestimate real replacement values.
    That are only the bases around the world where no war goes on, I've seen numbers counting the spending in Afghanistan at $5.4 trillion alone.

    But I doubt that the scenario of debt denial will take place, however. The US will go down fighting Israel's wars, along with probably half the globe.


    Noted Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld stated that Israel could find itself one day forced to exterminate the European continent using all kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt its demise neared, stressing that Israel also considers Europe a hostile target.

    This came in a press interview broadcast by the seventh Hebrew radio and was translated on Wednesday into Arabic by the press information analysis and study center.

    “We have hundreds of nuclear warheads and missiles that can reach different targets in the heart of the European continent, including beyond the borders of Rome, the Italian capital,” Creveld said, adding that most of the European capitals would become preferred targets for the Israeli air force.

    The Israeli historian reiterated Israel’s ability to destroy the whole world whenever it felt its existence would be doomed to extinction.
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    When they feel that their time has run out, they'll blow up the entire world.


    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent
    With the US basically out of the equation in the middle east Israel is going to find itself in a tough position, this fact seems inevitable. This will probably just increase the problem of Zionism however, because these Israelis are going to move somewhere else, probably en masse. I would guess it will be in the US, but the UK might make a better strategic location from which to continue their quest to enslave humanity.
    The most Jews are in the US already anyway, more than live in Israel. The US is the Empire from which they excert control over the world, they'd never give it up, even though it needs new funding. Strategically, an own continent with massive oceans around simply is the better place. The UK ceased to be an empire with WWII, it can no longer enforce anything anywhere at gunpoint. The US can, and does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnePercent View Post
    To a certain degree this does seem to be a bit of wishful thinking
    I agree, some parts were rather ludicrous. For example statements like these made in the video:
    Turkey instead is an economic powerhouse, outdistancing all but Germany in technology, productivity and science.
    I mean, really? Now I understand why our politicians are always telling us that we need more immigrants from these countries due to our lack of experts.

    It looks like Israel's isolation in the middle east really is growing despite all these wars lead by the US, but they still have the full support of the West backing them. And even if the US has to cut back, abandoning Israel is probably last on the list and even a severly weakened US can keep some small arab countries in check if necessary. I also don't think that Gaddafi was very Israel friendly, as he was rather opposed to the west, and the attack on Libya was largely lead and instigated by Sarkozy and David Cameron after all.

    Speaking of these two zionist stooges - I've just read an article about them visiting Libya and gloating about their victory:


    Quote Originally Posted by Edgard View Post
    God I hope not but then they have been getting EU passports at an increased rate in the last year.
    True, whatever happens to Israel in the end, I would really hate to see them stream back to Europe by the millions. Didn't someone post an article on Skadi recently about Jews in large numbers acquiring the polish citizenship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinrich Harrer View Post
    Speaking of these two zionist stooges - I've just read an article about them visiting Libya and gloating about their victory:
    I recognise Bernard Henri Levy on the left, and I guess the seriously short guy beside Sarkozy (he must be about 4'9"!) is leader of newly installed Libyan govt. He is a perfect height to recieve pats on the head when he pleases the people who tell him what to do. Very fitting.
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