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    I was getting at the same thing as Ocko. The traditional European worldview is indeed tri-polar: they divided existence into creation (fertility, production), force (war, violence), and sovereignty (wisdom, intellect). This is reflected in the three castes.

    Todesritter, it's interesting that you bring up Japan's caste system where the merchants were on the bottom of society. Being an aggressive warrior culture, the Japanese despised the merchants and instead elevated the farmers to the level right below the samurai. This might be a good idea for us to adopt - with some modifications - since it opposes both mass socialism and the liberal-capitalist plutocracy, and instead promotes the aristocratic worldview.

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    I find this thread so fascinating...because even in countries like Iran and India, which aren't "white" anymore, can you find old fragments of Indo-European culture every now and then.
    Yes, it's a bit of a hobby of mine to find out these old fragments around the world.

    India was originally ruled by pure Indo-Aryans, and even though race-mixing largely polluted the whole country, the ancient Indo-European traditions can still be seen. In the Vedic mythos, the god Indra is described like this:
    "At the swift draught the soma-drinker waxed in might, the Iron One with yellow beard and yellow hair. Indra, Lord of tawny coursers, Lord of fleet-foot mares, will bear his steeds safely over all distress.''

    Iran had a similar caste system in the Persian Empire. The original Persian three castes were Indo-European, and there's evidence in Iranian mythology:
    ''But one of those within the fortress was a woman, daughter of the captain, named Gurdafrid. When she learned that their leader had allowed himself to be taken, she found his behaviour so shameful that her rosy cheeks became as black as pitch with rage. With not a moment's delay Gurdafrid dressed herself in a knight's armour, gathered her fair hair beneath a Rumi helmet, and rode out from the fortress, a lion eager for battle.''

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    Iran has several interesting parallels with the downfall of the pagan Roman Empire. Both of them were Indo-European empires that fell to Semitic mass-religions that preached equality.

    In pagan Rome, it was the slaves that embraced Christianity first (although it was imported by Jews). The same thing happened with the Islamic virus in Iran, when the lowest castes and urban poor masses began converting to Islam. They felt oppressed, and the elitist Zoroastrianism of the upper castes wasn't for them. So instead, they embraced the desert religion that claimed "all men are equal under Allah". Although the Iranian upper castes didn't accept Islam until the Moslem Arabs invaded the country and forced them to convert.

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    I just watched a documentary about the ancient Spartans, and it said that Sparta also had a three-level caste system: the Spartiates (warriors), the priests, and the farmers. Below these were the Helots, who were slaves.

    Interesting stuff.

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