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    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    Anyone who believes the White-Supremacist version of Christanity is a fool. Anyone who knows the first thing about Christianity knows that it is an inherently anti-Supremacist Religion (One of the reasons Jesus was such a Revolutionary and so popular was that he was against the Jewish-Supremacism that existed in the Jewish community at that time...if he were alive today he would be against White-Supremacism too). I think that might be why so many White Supremacists hate Christianity, because it smashes their Supremacist fantasies
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    Yes, I agree. The thing with most WP Christians is they feel the need to be racialist, yet had an Xtian uprising. So what they did was say, "We will make Jesus non-Jew, but White. We will say it's all just Jew propaganda, then everything will be okay? We'll make the 12 Tribes of Israel Aryan as well." Someone once told me that all non-Whites have no souls, but when a black dies, he automatically goes to hell. Now my question is this; how can one go to hell without a soul? Someone else was quoting the Xtian bible to me, and in the bible verse, God said "You will see my White Pride World Wide Face." Yeah, I'm sure God was telling one of the Jews, "White Pride World Wide," as if that term existed back then. Rewriting the bible to suit your religious beliefs doesn't work, CI. I think it's almost as dumb as rewriting the original 25 points of the NSDAP, like the National Socialist Movement did.
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    Post Re: Christian Identity

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    Anyone who knows the first thing about Christianity knows that it is an inherently anti-Supremacist Religion (One of the reasons Jesus was such a Revolutionary and so popular was that he was against the Jewish-Supremacism that existed in the Jewish community at that time...if he were alive today he would be against White-Supremacism too). I think that might be why so many White Supremacists hate Christianity, because it smashes their Supremacist fantasies
    I beg to differ. Here's an obvious reference to gentiles, Greeks in this case as being "dogs".
    Mark 7:25-30 KJV

    For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:

    The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.

    But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.

    And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.

    And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
    The Old Testament is of course filled with countless displays of Israeli’s supposed superior nature as exemplified of their exploits at genocide, none of these exploits are historically accurate as the Israelites in the middle east were nothing, but tent dwelling gnats to the surrounding greater people like the Philistines.

    I'm not Christian Identity or Christian by any means. I'm just speculating here, but there is a possibility that the originators of the Israelites being the Cohen-Levite tribes were in fact Indo-European or some loner Hyskos possibly Hittites, who then gathered Semitic Bedouins together to form the 12 tribes of Israel. Their whole religion seems to have borrowed heavily from Egypt, with their traveling tent-tabernacle being an exact mock up of Egyptian burials.

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    Christian Identity is revolting. We've suffered for 2,000 years under the blight from the Levant; now some American and British idiots actually want to take credit for the work of absurdity, barbarism and filth that is the Old Testament?

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    This story about the Greek woman and Jesus does not promote Supremacism. Jesus had already explained that he was sent "only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 15:24), so one would expect him to not care about foreigners. This is why the Christian religion and Jesus are not a Supremacist: Not only does Jesus hear this foreign woman out (this in and of itself was strictly forbidden under Jewish law), but he heals her daughter! The NT is full of incidents of Jesus preaching to and associating with those of other races when He met them. He heals both Jews and Gentiles and ignores the xenophobic Jewish laws of the day. Eventually he declares that he came for all people, and therefore there is no "Chosen people". Jesus and his teachings were like a sledgehammer that smashed Supremacist thinking (although at that time it was mainly jewish-supremacism that he was fighting, but I assure you both Jesus and the Christian religion were/are against all forms of Supremacism). But don't take my word for it, as there are lots of NT biblical passages that smash the concept of Supremacism, here are a just a few:

    Matthew 13:47
    Matthew 28:19
    Luke 14:16-24
    John 4:9
    John 4:27
    Romans 3:22
    Romans 10:12
    1 Corinthians 12:13
    Galatians 3:28


    How many instances are there in the NT of the promotion of Supremacism? I can't think of a single one (as even the example you provided isn't really Supremacist as I explained above).
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    Post Re: Christian Identity

    I see Jesus as a drop out, He didnt persue a career in carpentry, opted for the career of political agitator instead.

    I see Jesus as a Communist, he saw everybody equal, loathed all authority, except god, who he claimed to be himself. ( or the son of )

    I see jesus as a Jew, he lived in palestine, was a jew, went to jew church, lived in the jew tradition.

    So I fail to see how any Conservative, Aryan racialist can worship this piece of historic muck as a messiah and still claim to have "White Pride"

    The Bible should be blacklisted and Jesus forgotten for the spiritual, racial and cultural health of Europe and her indiginious peoples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDas
    Anyone who believes the White-Supremacist version of Christanity is a fool. Anyone who knows the first thing about Christianity knows that it is an inherently anti-Supremacist Religion (One of the reasons Jesus was such a Revolutionary and so popular was that he was against the Jewish-Supremacism that existed in the Jewish community at that time...if he were alive today he would be against White-Supremacism too). I think that might be why so many White Supremacists hate Christianity, because it smashes their Supremacist fantasies
    White Supremacy -- Define this term please if you would. Christianity was given to one people alone, the Adamic, Hebrew, Israelite peoples. The only dliema is to find out who they are in modern times. Heb 8:8 declares that there is a covenant that is still in effect with this people. In other words, it behooves us as Christian kindred to discover who these Israelite people are and where they can be found. See as well Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 in this discussionas it is certainly relevant. If you mean that Adam's descendants were not to have dominion then I would say go back n re-read Genesis.

    If you mean by Identity the teaching that Europeans are the Israelites and that Racial misgenation is un-Christian, and that there has been a mistake in the "identity" of modern day Israel, then I think that you are off your rockers to disagree with these things as I think that it can be shown that these are indeed Christian principles and ought to taught from the pulpit, but being that His teachings have been stolen and corrupted into Churchianity.

    I think that there is certainly a lot of mistakes in "identity" but none more then in Judeo Churchianity. The alternative to "identity" - which is not a religion or branch of anything but rather just an understanding, is heretical teachings, anti-folk centered or anti-nationalistic churchianity rather then the Nationalist teachings of true Christ centered Biblical Christianity. The alternative is a mongrelised religious ideal declared by false prophets and liard of men and above all - simply traditions of men. The alternative is racial misgenation is allright with God, Jews are the people of God and that there is little if any point in remaining nationalistic or Folk centered because God is against it. Humbug!


    "He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation; and as for his judgments they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord."

    Psalms 147:19-20


    (two great places for starters that don't buy into alot of the BS that one sometimes finds in so-called 'identity' places)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogenoct
    What the hell does this site tell us???
    Negroes, Asians, Arabs, Indo-Europeans are all the same??

    http://www.serpentseed.com/

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    Anyone who reads the New Testament and concludes it offers support for any sort of racism is functionally illiterate.

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