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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    I'm sure the Romans viewed the Germanics as "inferior", because their civilization was less advanced at the time.
    It wasn't less advanced.

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    Superiority doesn't imply invincibility. The Roman Empire killed itself from the inside out, and that's how it is going to be with its descendant, the western white states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    Today, I was reading a history book, so I'm sitting here and thinking about something.

    All the big civilizations have their downfall sooner or later, but the interesting thing is why do they decline?
    Oswald Spengler had written about this subject. Actually he is most know for his theory for why cultures eventually crumble. But I would have to reread it to get most of his points back in to my memory.

    But to give my own ideas. It happens when the a significant part of the population no longer cares about the foundations of their culture and refuse to defend it. In the case of Rome, the Romans where no longer willing to serve in the military and let the fighting over to foreigners (and more specific Germanics) and went for a life of decadence and hardly reproduced anymore.
    The sense of honor is of so fine and delicate a nature that
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    The problem is the generations who build the Empire/Nation die off and the following ones either lose faith, start feeling guilty or simply have it to good and are apathetic about what has been built for them by previous generations.

    In other words they are like spoilt children who have had everything handed to them rather than worked for anything. They don't care about their culture or history, they don't care and in fact have been taught not to have any pride in their heritage.

    They are soft and idealistic, and of course as we have seen get raped and assaulted by the immigrants who are coming from cultures that have a very strong animal instinct, I don't use the the term animal instinct negatively here either. Racial others generally come from very harsh cultures/societies and have no time for the political correctness and social justice that the left wing spew out. They will take the best of it while raping and assaulting the very people who allowed and possibly even fought to let them in.

    So I agree Empires/Civilizations fall from the inside because subsequent generations who only know the good become apathetic and idealistic and think it would be great to share some of their wealth with the less fortunate. In other words Socialism.

    We are seeing the multi cult experiement fail and it will be up to us and future generations to fix it up and ensure it never happens again.
    Last edited by Meister; Thursday, September 8th, 2011 at 06:01 AM. Reason: I posted this before I read the above post which echoes my thoughts. Sorry I did not copy we just happen to agree.
    I grew up on a belief of honour, courage and the old world values. The world isn't about that anymore, preferring to die a slow death of fast food and cheap thrills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    Today, I was reading a history book, so I'm sitting here and thinking about something.

    All the big civilizations have their downfall sooner or later, but the interesting thing is why do they decline?

    I'm sure the Romans viewed the Germanics as "inferior", because their civilization was less advanced at the time. The Germanics, in turn, viewed the Huns as "inferior" to themselves. When the Europeans explored the world, then viewed the non-white people as "inferior". But the paradox is, it's usually the uncivilized people who win in the end.

    If I apply this idea to our immigration problem right now, that means that the Arab and African immigrants will soon outnumber us, on our own continents. But doesn't that show that are is no "superior" or "inferior" races?

    What do you think about this?
    This supposes that civilizations can only be destroyed by superior races, when the opposite is more likely. It does not take a genius to destroy something great or to facilitate its undoing.

    Civilizations can be defeated by other, more superior races, as happened with most of the non-European races and people. And Rome was in my opinion defeated, Europe today on the other hand is being destroyed. There's a difference there and the factors at play are different. As Rome was defeated, Germania rose to prominence. There wont emerge a great civilization out of the ruins of Europe. The very foundation is being eroded, the multicultural, multiracial society is a society built upon sand rather than bedrock. The end result, or product, will be inferior to what once was.

    A better comparison would be the fate of South Africa and Zimbabwe.

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    Thank you for the answers.

    I tend to agree with Elessar's post, that nature doesn't care for moral superiority. Brute force and large numbers is what matters, in the end. We may be the most advanced and the most morally superior, but we're not the "fittest" in the natural sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    It wasn't less advanced.
    In many ways, it was. The Roman Empire had large cities, public baths, cement, water aqueducts, Roman roads, steam power, and so on. The Dark Ages were a descent into ignorance.

    The rest of Europe didn't rise up to that level until several centuries later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    When the idea of getting married and having children becomes something that is merely thought about and not DONE, it's only a matter of time.
    What are you on about?

    When did I ever mention having children???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    What are you on about?

    When did I ever mention having children???
    A civilization is made up of people, is it not? When we fail to reproduce in numbers, our civilization will die. We are failing to reproduce in numbers. If only the Turks in Europe reproduce in numbers, what about the future Europe will be European? Nothing! Whether we solve this problem in our lifetimes or not, there must be future generations to pass our culture down to, and they must be our blood descendants.

    When did you ever mention having children? You didn't. Did you fail to understand that the future of our civilization requires them? That the future of our civilization is our children? Apparently so.

    There was no more Rome when there were no more Romans.. when they became corrupted to the point that producing new generations of their own seemed less important to them than indulging in the luxuries of the present.

    The "fittest" is also a mentality and a value system, and people like the Amish, who base their existence upon family and clan and the love of same, tend to survive, while those who think our "civilization" is based upon material things and do not have children, or have fewer later in life, tend to lose everything they have. That is what is happening to us now. We have succumbed to the pied piper of mammon and left our families to die out.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    TBrute force and large numbers is what matters, in the end. We may be the most advanced and the most morally superior, but we're not the "fittest" in the natural sense.


    In many ways, it was. The Roman Empire had large cities, public baths, cement, water aqueducts, Roman roads, steam power, and so on. The Dark Ages were a descent into ignorance.

    The rest of Europe didn't rise up to that level until several centuries later.
    Survival of the fittest does not mean those with the most brute force survives. It means those who is able to adapt the best has the most chance of survival.

    The celts had roads before the romans, aqueducts wern't a roman invention, and so on. I think you are pretty biased. The celts had better metalworking than the romans, thats' why the romans "stole" their famous short sword from the celts. Germanic societies was much higher adapted when it came to civil rights, with our "tings" etc.

    Celts, Vandals, Persians and Goths were technologically, economically and intellectually sophisticated, but were on the wrong side of history.

    Plutarch's figure claims that Julius Caesar slaughtered a million Gauls, very civilized indeed. Far from civilizing the societies they conquered the Romans often destroyed much of what they found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frimodighet View Post
    The Germanics, in turn, viewed the Huns as "inferior" to themselves.
    I see. That sure explains why certain germanic tribes started picking up hunnic symbolism, artistic influence and customs (such as proof of head binding in certain migration era graves). Not to mention rallying up with them on raids and making a legendary figure out of Atilla himself, that lived on in myth, legend and poetry for well over half a century in an oral society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Celts, Vandals, Persians and Goths were technologically, economically and intellectually sophisticated, but were on the wrong side of history.
    The Germanics started out on "the wrong side of history", but didn't stay there.

    Some civilizations just are successful, others aren't. The Ancient Greeks began with a motley collection of rocky islands as their homeland and had every odds against them, yet they created one of the greatest civilizations in history. Same with the Romans and the Anglo-Saxons.

    Plutarch's figure claims that Julius Caesar slaughtered a million Gauls, very civilized indeed. Far from civilizing the societies they conquered the Romans often destroyed much of what they found.
    Well, that's what imperialism looks like. I seriously doubt that other tribes at that time would've been any nicer, if they had the same tremendous power. It's the same situation as the English settlers wiping out the Red Indians. You can't really blame an empire for being too successful.

    From my Social Darwinist point of view, I can't see the point of feeling moral outrage about this natural process.

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