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    This disgraceful company is now going to make the over-75's pay a licence fee too ...

    Up to 3.7 million over-75s to pay licence fee

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    Jo Brand's Hate Speech on (BBC) Radio 4

    Last night on Radio 4 (where else?) leftie luvvie Jo Brand fantasised about throwing acid over politicians she doesn’t like. Making the kind of joke that leaves a bad taste, she told Victoria Coren Mitchell “why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?” It’s okay because Jo is left wing so she’s really compassionate…

    “Certain unpleasant characters are being thrown to the fore, and they’re very, very easy to hate, and I’m kind of thinking, why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?

    That’s just me, sorry, I’m not gonna do it, it’s purely a fantasy, but I think milk shakes are pathetic, I honestly do. Sorry.”

    She’s not the first to promote an acid attack. Nigel Farage tells Guido: “This is incitement of violence and the police need to act.”

    Listen here

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    Farage Demands Police Action over BBC Comic Jo Brand’s Battery Acid Joke



    Wouldn’t it be just hilarious if instead of throwing milkshakes leftist agitators instead threw battery acid at their opponents?




    Actually, no, BBC-promoted comedienne Jo Brand, it really, really wouldn’t. But that didn’t stop her making light of the subject on BBC Radio 4.

    She joked: “Certain unpleasant characters are being thrown to the fore, and they’re very, very easy to hate, and I’m kind of thinking, why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid? That’s just me, sorry, I’m not gonna do it, it’s purely a fantasy, but I think milk shakes are pathetic, I honestly do. Sorry.”

    Actually I take back that “ill-considered”. My suspicion is that Ms Brand considered all too well what she was saying — and decided it wasn’t a problem.

    For years, now, there has been a terrifying mismatch of tone and understanding between those on the liberal-left and those on the right. (Yes I agree the left/right distinction is not always helpful, especially not since Brexit, but you know roughly what I mean so let’s stick with it for the moment.)

    Righties consider their opponents to be comical, misguided, foolish, laughable, ridiculous.

    Lefties consider their opponents to be hateful, wicked, loathsome, verminous, reprehensible.

    Righties go for the laugh: jokes that are funny.

    Lefties go for the virtue signalling: ‘jokes’ that get a round of applause from the audience in smug, mutual celebration of just how woke the observation is.

    Ms Brand’s battery acid joke is classic leftist humour. It’s not particularly funny but it does reinforce a particular world view, much as nasty, unfunny racist jokes used to do back in the 80s.

    “Right-wing people/Brexiteers/people who don’t vote Corbyn are so hateful and disgusting that the only language they understand is to have their faces melted with acid!” it jovially quips.

    If a right-wing comedian were to make such a joke it would, of course, be the end of his career: leftist social media would make sure of that, badgering any venues still prepared to host his gigs; the BBC — in the highly unlikely event that the BBC gave space to a right-wing comic — would cancel his contract, under pressure from the usual leftist suspects (who would in any case be pushing at an open door).

    But when a left-wing comedienne such as Brand does it, we’re supposed to just grin and take it on the chin.

    Not only is this not fair but it’s also dangerous.

    Politics, as Andrew Breitbart said, is downstream from culture. The more often licensed members of the left-wing comedy establishment like Brand vilify and dehumanise their right wing opponents on the BBC, the more socially acceptable it becomes for impressionable listeners to treat right wing people like a lower form of life which may deservedly be crushed under foot.

    I see from Twitter that this is an issue which is dividing right-wingers.

    Some are saying: “Give her a break. Comedians should be free to say what they like. Isn’t that what freedom of speech is all about?”

    Others are so appalled by the double standards they think the BBC should make an example of Brand.

    Even though I suggested just now on a podcast I did with John Gaunt that Jo Brand should be sacked, I actually don’t think she should be. I don’t even want her reprimanded because I think there’s something hollow and insincere about these kind of skin-saving, sanctimonious public apologies. Also, I believe that comedians of whatever political hue should be able to crack tasteless jokes because being tasteless is part of a comedian’s job.

    Tell you what I would do, though: scrap the BBC licence fee. That way if viewers and listeners want to make a principled objection to the relentlessly leftwards direction the BBC is headed then at least they can vote with their feet — and hit the BBC where it most hurts: in the budget.




    This is very clearly an effort to incite a hate crime.

    Sooner or later some loon will act on these stupid fools statements.

    Prosecute, not only Brand but the producers and anyone else involved as well as the top Honchos of the BBC.

    I am sick of the double standards.

    There is no hope for this country and it will shortly be subsumed into the morass of the tribal third world.



    Farage Demands Police Action over BBC Comic Jo Brand’s Battery Acid Joke13 Jun 2019.

    What if . . . and its a real possibility?

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    Police investigate Jo Brand 'battery acid' comment


    A comment made by Jo Brand on BBC Radio 4 about throwing battery acid at politicians is being assessed by the Metropolitan Police following an allegation of incitement to violence.


    The Met said in a statement: "Police have received an allegation of incitement to violence that was reported to the MPS on 13 June. "The allegation relates to comments made on a radio programme. The allegation is currently being assessed. "There have been no arrests and inquiries are ongoing."


    The comedian made the joke on Victoria Coren Mitchell's Heresy programme on Tuesday night, but has been criticised for inciting violence by Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage among others.


    Theresa May's official spokesman said: "The prime minister has been repeatedly clear that politicians should be able to go about their work and campaign without harassment, intimidation or abuse. "I note that Brendan Cox [husband of murdered MP Jo Cox] has said that violence and intimidation should not be normalised and we should consistently stand against it. "The prime minister shares this view. It is for the BBC to explain why it considers this to have been appropriate content for broadcast."


    Yesterday, the BBC defended airing Brand's comment. A BBC spokeswoman said: "Heresy is a long-running comedy programme where, as the title implies and as our listeners know, panellists often say things which are deliberately provocative and go against societal norms but are not intended to be taken seriously."


    In reply to a question about the state of UK politics, Ms Brand had told the programme: "Well, yes, I would say that but that's because certain unpleasant characters are being thrown to the fore and they're very, very easy to hate and I'm kind of thinking 'Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?' "That's just me. I'm not going to do it, it's purely a fantasy, but I think milkshakes are pathetic, I honestly do, sorry."


    In a tweet on Wednesday, Mr Farage accused Brand of inciting violence, although he did not say who against. He wrote: "This is incitement of violence and the police need to act." Last month, Mr Farage was showered with milkshake during a campaign walkabout in Newcastle city centre. He was heard to comment "complete failure" and "I could have spotted that a mile off" as he was ushered away by security officers following the incident.


    The trend of throwing milkshakes at right-wing politicians began when viral footage showed Tommy Robinson having one thrown over him in Warrington. Since then, several other members of the public have attempted to repeat the unusual protest in an apparent tribute to the original culprit.


    Broadcasting watchdog Ofcom said it has received 65 complaints about the episode of Heresy. At the end of show, Ms Coren Mitchell said she hoped Ms Brand's remarks had not caused offence, but added that the radio series had been set up to "test the boundaries of what it's OK to say and not say".


    Police investigate Jo Brand 'battery acid' comment - rte.ie 13 Jun 2019.

    The most that will happen is that it will be drawn to the attention of the BBC. It certainly won't be a year in jail like the 'bacon butee' offender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech
    Of course they do.
    BBC defends comedian Jo Brand over battery acid joke



    The BBC has defended the comedian Jo Brand against claims she encouraged violence in a joke about throwing battery acid during a radio show.

    Brand, who joined the Heresy's show on Radio 4 as a guest on Tuesday, joked about throwing battery acid at "unpleasant characters" instead of milkshakes.

    Nigel Farage, leader of the Brexit party, who had a milkshake thrown on him recently hit back at the comedian on Twitter saying: "This is incitement of violence and the police need to act."

    When asked if Brand would continue working with the BBC on Thursday, she responded: "I'm not employed by the BBC, so how can they sack me?"

    A BBC spokeswoman said the jokes made on the Heresy show are "deliberately provocative and go against societal norms".

    She added they are "not intended to be taken seriously."

    Social media users have compared the BBC's response with Danny Baker's sacking over an alleged racist tweet about royal baby Archie.

    ITV's Good Morning Britain presenter Piers Morgan is among those making the comparison with Baker's sacking, questioning the BBC's decision.

    On the show, Brand said: "Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?"

    The 61-year-old then made clear she was joking and criticised the milkshake stunts.

    She said: "That's just me. I'm not going to do it,

    "It's purely a fantasy, but I think milkshakes are pathetic, I honestly do, sorry," she added.

    After the show, presenter Victoria Coren Mitchell said she hoped Brand's remarks had not caused offence but added the aim of her show was to "test the boundaries of what it's okay to say and not say".

    The TV personality later responded to Mr Farage on Twitter, accusing him of double standards.

    She wrote: "Nigel! I'm genuinely disappointed; we don't agree on everything, but I would totally have had you down as a free speech man. Especially when it comes to jokes."

    Source: ITV.com
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    Police will take no further action over Jo Brand 'battery acid' comment


    Police in England will take no further action against Jo Brand after she joked about throwing battery acid at politicians, Scotland Yard has said.


    The comedian was reported over an allegation of incitement to violence after comments made on BBC Radio 4 programme Heresy on Tuesday, with Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage among her critics.

    Ms Brand apologised for the joke, calling it "crass and ill-judged". However, police have now said she will face no further action.

    In a statement, Scotland Yard said: "Police received an allegation of incitement to violence on 13 June, relating to comments made on a radio programme.

    "The referral has been considered by the MPS and no further police action will be taken in relation to this allegation."

    On Wednesday, Mr Farage - who had a milkshake thrown at him while campaigning in Newcastle - accused Ms Brand of inciting violence, although he did not say who against.

    Commenting again on Twitter, Mr Farage said: "I am sick to death of overpaid, left-wing, so-called comedians on the BBC who think their view is morally superior. "Can you imagine the reaction if I had said the same thing as Jo Brand?"

    The Press Association understands that the allegation reported to the police was not made by Mr Farage or the Brexit Party.

    Ofcom said it has received 65 complaints about the episode of Heresy.



    Police will take no further action over Jo Brand joke - rte.ie15 Jun 2019.



    Usual 'double standards' from the establishment. This one certainly won't be discussed on MSM.

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    The BBC Is the Enemy of Britain and British Values


    How depressing it would be if the typical Muslim in Britain today were embodied by Abdullah Patel?



    Abdullah is the imam at a mosque in Gloucester; doesn’t speak English that well; has a burning sense of grievance about a thing he calls “Islamophobia”; is a fan of Jeremy Corbyn because he scares “Zionist’s” [sic]; thinks Gaza is “the modern day Auschwitz”; warns women who have been sexually assaulted that “it takes two to tango”; supports CAGE (the organisation which had a research director who once described the ISIS killer Jihadi John as “a beautiful young man”); is deputy headteacher of a heavily criticised school with an Islamic ethos and curriculum…


    Call me old-fashioned but I don’t much like the cut of Abdullah’s jib. Chippy, whiny, cry-bullying, over-eager to play the Muslim card at every opportunity, sympathetic — at the very least — to terrorist sympathisers, casually misogynistic, antisemitic (though no doubt he’d gloss it with euphemism anti-Zionist), and probably thick as mince, Abdullah is emblematic of so much that is wrong with cultural cohesion in Britain today.


    Is this dodgy geezer really representative of British Muslims?


    Some of you will no doubt say I’m being naive but I don’t think he is at all. I think of my Muslim GP, the Muslim woman who is treating my Lyme disease, the Muslim “Special Friend” who wrote me some fan mail for my podcast, the Muslim readers who occasionally accost me in the streets to tell me they’re big fans of my columns, the Muslims who work for my brother’s tech start-up, the Muslim guy who fixed my car the other day….


    What all the above have in common, apart from being Muslim obviously, is that they’re ordinary British people who just want to get along in British society — make a living, improve their lot, give their kids a better standard of living than they had themselves: just like the rest of us.


    These, I believe, are much, much more representative of Muslim Britain than noisy ingrates like Abdullah.


    But you’d never guess this from the way Muslims are represented by the BBC.


    The BBC is now trying to tell us that it was a complete accident that when they were looking for a token Muslim to appear on their now infamous Conservative Leaders Debate they ended up with an antisemitic Corbynista cry-bully obsessed with “Islamophobia”.


    Yeah, right.


    The last time I debated with a Muslim on the BBC, the one that they’d chosen was a self-described Islamist who said he despised British history and felt no pride in being British — largely, it seemed, because his knowledge of Britain’s history was confined to the Bengal famine for which he blamed Winston Churchill.


    The time before that was for a youth debate programme staged by the BBC on the subject of Islamophobia. There were lots of bearded men in the Manchester audience, including one with a sweatshirt saying “Sharia4UK”. One of my fellow panellists — a Muslim girl whose Afghan parents had been given refugee status in the United Kingdom — insisted, when I brought up the subject of Muslim rape gangs, that there was no evidence these rape gangs existed. All the Muslim panellists agreed that the two main reasons for Islamophobia in Britain were racism and foreign policy.


    And you wonder why people like me increasingly say “No” when invited on to these BBC discussion programmes. What’s the point? Why make yourself a target?


    To understand what’s wrong with the BBC, you only need remind yourself of Robert Conquest’s Three Laws of Politics:



    1. Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.
    2. Any organisation not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.
    3. The simplest way to explain the behaviour of any bureaucratic organisation is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.




    The second one is a given in the BBC’s case, but it’s the last one which is most germane in this instance.


    Mad though it may seem for an organisation called the British Broadcasting Corporation, the BBC viscerally loathes Britain. It despises Britain’s traditions, its values, its indigenous population, its history, its culture, its instinctive conservatism — all of which it wants to remake anew with the kind of Year Zero approach which proved so successful in late ’70s Cambodia.


    And that — to cut to the chase — is why the BBC chose Abdullah as its token Muslim. And why the BBC will always prefer to choose people like Abdullah as its token Muslim. Because, just like the BBC, people like Abdullah hate Britain.


    I see that the remaining Conservative leadership candidates are so disgusted with the biased way the BBC handled the Leaders Debate that they are considering boycotting similar future BBC events.


    A fat lot of good this will do.


    If Boris Johnson is serious about restoring British greatness when he becomes prime minister, one of the first problems he will have to address is that of an overprotected, arrogant state broadcaster hell-bent on undermining Britain and British values at every turn.




    Bit late to the party there. I abandoned the BBC as a source of information back in the day when it was Maggie who could do no right, a position they have taken against Churchill pre-1939, Enoch Powell, Reagan and Trump as well as anybody else who dares to challenge the PC world that the BBC inhabits.
    Pro Stalin's workers' paradise, pro-appeasement, pro-Chamberlain, anti-Churchill, pro mass nationalization, pro-CND, pro-Wilson ( The White Heat of the Technological something or other ), rabidly anti-Powell, anti-Maggie and Reagan, pro-EU, pro-mass immigration, anti-Christian but pro-Islam, pro gay-marriage, feminism, transgenderism and any other passing ism that distracts attention from the real world, and pro-all the Heaths, Callaghans, Majors, Blairs, Browns, Camerons and Mays, who have presided over the decline of Britain from a proud nation state which had defended its borders for a thousand years into what it is today.


    Britain will never recover its pride or its patriotism whilst the BBC survives,and yet Parliament after Parliament grants it billions of Pounds of our money to promote its destructive propaganda.
    But don't forget the blacks with their blonde wives. It gets more like the black and white minstrel show every day.



    The BBC Is the Enemy of Britain and British Values 21 Jun 2019.


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    Britain Ramps Up Media War On Russia

    The British government appears to be more and more aping a Monty Python-type farce with each passing day. Soon the absurd ensemble will be complete if either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt becomes the next prime minister.

    This week the mandarins at the Ministry of Funny Walks ruled that two internationally respected Russian news media channels were banned from attending a global conference on “press freedom”.

    RT and another Russia-based news outlet Sputnik were refused permission by the British government to participate in the Global Conference for Media Freedom, held in London.

    A British Foreign Office spokesperson said:

    “We have not accredited RT or Sputnik because of their earlier role in spreading disinformation.”

    The irony of it. The British government is peddling unsubstantiated accusations (more accurately, ridiculous slander) against Russian media which is then invoked as “justification” for censorship at a much-vaunted international conference supposedly dedicated to freedom of the press. You could hardly make the farce up. It’s a kind of cross between George Orwell and Monty Python.

    What the British government is doing is blatantly ramping up the media war against Russia. London is giving a license for further outrageous repression of Russian news media, as well as piling on demonization of Russia as a state.

    In the same week it was reported that fellow NATO member Lithuania has blocked the news website of Sputnik in the Baltic country.

    Previously, France had banned RT and Sputnik journalists from attending public press conferences held by President Emmanuel Macron. In the US, Sputnik radio stations have been curbed from reaching their American audiences.

    Russia’s foreign ministry slammed the British and Lithuanian moves this week as putting unreasonable obstacles on the professional work of Russian news media.

    RT and Sputnik are internationally recognized news outlets with accredited offices and reporters based in countries all around the world. Just because the channels are financially supported by the Russian government is no grounds whatsoever for accusing them of being “Kremlin operations”. Most countries maintain some level of government sponsorship of their respective national news media.

    The British Broadcasting Corporation and France 24 are prime examples. The US’s Voice of America and Radio Free Europe are other well-known instances of government-funded broadcasters. Should they be henceforth pejoratively labelled as “London, Paris, or Washington operations” if we use the same criterion?

    Moscow warned this week that British media outlets working in Russia can expect reciprocal restrictions after the banning of RT and Sputnik at the London conference.

    If we go down that route of bans and counter-bans, then international news media, journalistic integrity and the principle of free speech will be increasingly eroded. Perhaps that baleful outcome is exactly what the British and other NATO governments want to achieve in a desperate, underhand attempt to shut down Russia’s news perspective.

    What’s really going on here is the thin-skinned British authorities and others simply cannot abide the fact that Russian news media have provided an alternative perspective on international politics. A perspective that often sheds critical light on British, US and NATO foreign policies and conduct. It is also a perspective which seems to be increasingly appreciated by greater numbers of international audiences and viewers, including those of Britain and America.

    In recent years, Western mainstream news media has witnessed a phenomenal collapse in credibility among Western public over numerous issues. From illegal wars in the Middle East to spurious allegations about “Russian meddling” in elections, Western media have been exposed over and over again as peddlers of government-sanctioned propaganda.

    Public trust in Western media seems to be at an all-time low which in turn undermines the authority and credibility of their governments. The fault, perhaps one could say “crisis” in credibility, is inherent. It has little to do with Russia or its media, although Russian news channels like RT and Sputnik have certainly contributed in a legitimate way to exposing the malfeasance of Western governments.

    On international politics, such as the NATO-backed covert war for regime change in Syria, or the deplorable incitement of tensions by Washington and London towards Iran, Russian news media have provided a critical source of reporting and analysis. Often that alternative perspective has allowed Western public to hold their governments and derelict media to account. The fable of “the emperor with no clothes” comes to mind.

    It is bitterly ironic that an independent journalist like Julian Assange of the Wikileaks website is being currently detained in a maximum security British prison on trumped-up extradition charges to the US for spying – when Assange’s real “crime” is that he exposed American and British war crimes in Iraq and elsewhere. Arguably, Assange’s credibility and appreciation among ordinary citizens the world over is much higher than either of the US or British governments, or their mainstream media.

    The same dichotomy applies to the two above-mentioned Russia-based news channels. Not able to cope with hearing the critical message, the British government has resorted to shooting the messenger. However, the British and international public can see what’s going on here, and so the “emperor” is hastily, clumsily trying to cover up the embarrassment from being exposed.


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    ‘Kremlin’ Style ‘BBC Thought Police’ Want to ‘Mould’ UK In Liberal-Left’s Image - BBC Veteran.



    John Humphrys, the veteran British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) journalist who helmed its flagship Today programme for 33 years, exposed the publicly-funded broadcaster “institutional liberal bias” within days of his retirement.





    Mr Humphrys expressed his relief at being free from “the BBC Thought Police” which he claims has “tried to mould the nation into its own liberal-Left image”, despite the broadcaster’s notional legals requirement to remain balanced and impartial, in memoirs which are being serialised by the Daily Mail.



    The 76-year-old Welshman revealed the BBC’s “[great] fear of the politically correct brigade and the most fashionable pressure groups — usually from the liberal Left, the spiritual home of most bosses and staff”, and how the “disaster” of the British people’s vote to Leave the European Union in 2016 — against the advice of the left-neoliberal establishment — sent them reeling:


    “The morning of the EU Referendum was different. Leave had won — and this was not what the BBC had expected. Nor what it wanted.

    No nods and smiles when the big bosses appeared. No attempt to pretend that this was anything other than a disaster.

    Their expressions were as grim as the look on the face of a football supporter when his team’s star player misses the penalty that would have won them the cup.”



    Humphrys, though he voted to Remain in the European Union himself, said the result “exposed a fundamental flaw in the culture of the BBC”, and that “Its bosses, almost to a man and woman, could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box on the referendum ballot paper.”



    He suggested that the public broadcasters was similarly out of touch on issues such as mass migration, and how the efforts of Robin Aitken, a senior BBC journalist, to put together a dossier highlighting the way the corporation had fallen into a “Left-wing agenda [which] was ‘wholeheartedly and unashamedly pro-EU’” were met first with silence and then with an instruction to “fuck off”.


    “There is, I believe, a groupthink mentality, an implicit BBC attitude to what makes news,” Humphrys opined, suggesting its “institutional liberal bias” was not so much a product of conspiracy as of its tendency to recruit middle-class liberal arts graduates–” a disproportionately large proportion of whom had been to private schools” — trained by left-wing academics.


    “This may explain why the BBC sometimes fails so badly to spot a change in the nation’s mood — in hugely important areas,” he added.


    Humphrys is not the first BBC veteran to highlight the corporation’s bias — although for his part Humphrys believes it is still a “force for good” overall — with Peter Sissons, who presented the BBC Nine O’Clock News and the BBC Ten O’Clock News for a decade, having alleged that a left-wing “mindset” was “At the core of the BBC, in its very DNA” in 2011.



    “By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent,” he revealed, referring to two major left-wing, europhile outlets.


    “Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on *running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover,” he said. “In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.”




    I was shocked to see what London has become this summer. It was like visiting an Islamic country with thought police. Pakistanis running the show everywhere and a handful of aristocrats riding horses.

    “the BBC’s great fear of the politically correct brigade..” Don’t believe that. The old guard news agencies in the U.K. and the States literally hate their own countries. There is no PC fear. It’s pure self loathing hatred.

    For 33 years he chose to remain a bystander as the Marxists dismantled his country.

    Millions suffer through being mislead and he trumpets his hypocrisy too.




    BBC VETERAN: ‘KREMLIN’ STYLE ‘BBC THOUGHT POLICE’ TRYING TO ‘MOULD’ UK IN THEIR ‘LIBERAL-LEFT IMAGE’

    23 IX 2019.


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