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    Was There a Contract for Land Between the Afrikaners and Zulu's?



    I was watching Jewstorie channel a program named ‘Guns, germs and steel' which is a theory put forward by an American-Jared Diamond, in the program regarding the 'conquest' of Europeans in Africa. A whole heap of propaganda, half truths and outright lies. The program suggests that all the misfortunes of all blacks in all of Africa are due to the founding of the Cape of Good hope and the subsequent move northward by the Trek Boers. It is also implied that all the 'riches' from the Congo and other European colony’s such as those of the Danes, British and Portugal were siphoned to South Africa via the railways that spanned from South Africa through the Dark Continent. There is a scene where the American bursts into tears when he is in a child ward filled with black malaria sufferers. They give a short history of the dealings between black and white stating that at some point Europeans encountered blacks and wasn’t prepared or equipped to deal with them and where stopped in their tracks by Zulu’s. After that apparently the boers wanted blood and decided to kill the Zulu’s at Blood River.

    Never mentioning that there where peaceful negotiations that resulted in a contract and the subsequent slaughter of Piet Retief.



    If this is the case as this copy suggests why can the Zulu's not be held accountable to the contract? Was Dingane Drunk or Crazy, does his signature even appear on the contract, the small problem that they had no written language in this part of the world does make it a contestable point. Or is it simply that savages cannot be held to account because they are inferior to Europeans, Much like a child before age 21?

    Here a quote from Wikipedia:
    Despite warnings, Retief left the Tugela region on 28 January 1838, in the belief that he could negotiate permanent boundaries for the Natal settlement with Dingane. The deed of cession of the Tugela-Umzimvubu region, although dated 4 February, 1838, was signed by Dingane on 6 February 1838. This Dingane did by imitating writing and with the two sides recording three witnesses each. Dingane then invited Retief's party to witness a special performance by his soldiers. However, upon a signal given by Dingane, the Zulus overwhelmed Retief's party of 70 and their Coloured servants, taking all captive.

    Retief, his son, men, and servants, about a hundred people in total, were taken to Kwa Matiwane Hill at 28°25′37″S 31°16′12″E / 28.42694°S 31.27°E / -28.42694; 31.27, a site where thousands had already been massacred.[3] The whole party was clubbed to death there, Retief being killed last, so as to witness the deaths of his comrades. Their bodies were left on the hillside to be devoured by wild animals, as was Dingane's custom with his enemies. Dingane then gave orders for the Voortrekker laagers to be attacked,[3] which plunged the migrant movement into serious disarray. Eventually, the Retief party's remains were recovered and buried on 21 December 1838, by members of the "victory commando" led by Andries Pretorius, following the decisive Voortrekker victory at Blood River.

    Also recovered was the undamaged deed of cession from Retief's leather purse, as later verified by a member of the "victory commando", E.F. Potgieter. An exact copy survives, but the original deed disappeared in transit to the Netherlands during the Anglo-Boer War. The site of the Retief grave was more or less forgotten until pointed out in 1896 by J.H. Hattingh, a surviving member of Pretorius's commando. A monument recording the names of the members of Retief's delegation was erected near the grave in 1922.[4]
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Today we celebrate the day of the vow, or Dingaansday as it used to be called.

    Die Gelofte


    Not a Soliforum acolyte but this is interesting to me for this very reason.

    Die burgerregte-organisasie AfriForum het die musiekvideo van “Die Gelofte” saam met die vervaardigingsmaatskappy Inhoud Huis en vyf van die land se topkunstenaars vrygestel. “Die Gelofte” is ’n toonsetting van die Gelofte wat in 1838 deur Sarel Cilliers opgestel is en waarin die Voortrekkers hul afhanklikheid van God in ’n tyd van moedeloosheid en onsekerheid oor die toekoms verklaar. Die lied word deur Adam Tas, Chris Chameleon, Ghapi, Juan Boucher en Christoph Kotze (beter bekend as Appel) gesing. Dit is deur Johan Vorster van Inhoud Huis en Kotze getoonset. Die musiekvideo is deur Forum Films vervaardig, en die verspreiding word deur Dapper Media gedoen.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Of course there was they still have the document as I recall.

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    Do you think the document would stand in court today? Blacks have no obligations with regards to contract law it would seem.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Gelofte Lied Bloedrivier


    A tear to my eye.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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