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    Germanics the world over cannot even help themselves yet alone the Afrikaner

    I have been to Saudi Arabia and know just how repressive it is

    Some lifestyle for women when every time they step outside their compound they need to cover up in Islamic dress which is enforced by religious police, where all, regardless of age, are required to have a male guardian, where they cannot vote or be elected to high political positions and where they are prohibited from driving etc

    Are you all there?
    Our beauty is our power, our strength. We can’t allow them to change us, to lessen us. I will never grant them that satisfaction, and neither should you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    Allow me to tell you one thing: many Germanics work for Muslims, because the fellow Germanics do not give them a chance at jobs. Can OASIS promise us the same kind of jobs and perks our Muslim employers can? Doubt that.
    But that's then exactly the problem that we intend to solve by the means of a Volkstaat. Germanics working with and for Germanics. Surely OASE can make the same promises as Muslims do, but then I seriously doubt OASE will be the ones establishing a Volkstaat and that's due to them, not due to the concept.
    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    The thousands of Germanics that work for Muslims, also enjoy good medical care, housing, etc. etc. As one person that went to work in Saudi told me, "We came for the money and stayed for the life." I have seen them rally around the sick; while the Bible Study Group (Afrikaans) were home doing Bible Study, Muslims joined me around the bed of the sick individual.
    What Stormraaf was talking about wasn't charity or lack thereof, it was about muslims being a distinct culture from ours.
    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    On the other hand, the Jewish Museum in Cape Town devotes two sections, slandering the Afrikaner.
    That I won't dispute and also the obnoxious fact that despite the hostility of Jews towards Afrikaners, some (right wing) Afrikaners are real Judeophiles.
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    No use ignoring the contributions Muslims have made to the lives of Germanics.
    No use claiming or arguing using it. Under the stripe there was trade with muslims, just like there was with Blacks, Japanese etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    The tirade against Muslims started because of the argument that they do not belong in the proposed OASE homeland.
    An argument that you started.
    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    Actually, it is a futile exercise, as the OASE homeland is unlikely to happen; unlikely to remain in place for any length of time. It is like arguing about details of a trip that has only a tiny chance of ever coming to pass.
    No, it's going to happen and it has to happen, just that I don't think that the OASE guys are going to play a major role in the process. Not from we are reading from them at the moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    As for Saudi Arabia: No-one is blind about the fact that women cannot drive there, but almost a million women live there voluntarily (working, or with there husbands) - as it is not that fine in their home countries, like the USA; UK; AUSTRALIA etc. etc.
    Tells you something.
    I'd wonder about the real percentage of women from Western countries amongst foreign women there. Especially the ration towards Eastern Europeans, Philipinas and the like.But that's a subject on its own. We should focus on the subject that is expressed in the heading.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    Germanics the world over cannot even help themselves yet alone the Afrikaner

    I have been to Saudi Arabia and know just how repressive it is

    Some lifestyle for women when every time they step outside their compound they need to cover up in Islamic dress which is enforced by religious police, where all, regardless of age, are required to have a male guardian, where they cannot vote or be elected to high political positions and where they are prohibited from driving etc

    Are you all there?
    They have at least one female minister. No-one can vote, as it is an absolute monarchy.

    For 3 - 5 million whites thinking they can live in Africa, is like being in a bad marriage open to abuse by the majority anytime. Agreements are not worth the paper they are written on.

    Afrikaans has to change with the times anyway. If you try to preserve Afikaans culture as it is, the homeland will turn into HIllbillyland.

    Nothing survives for ever. Many languages have died out. There is nothing peculiar about Afrikaans why it should be immortal. Even Olde English is not read anymore.

    The only hope for the white people is repatriation / asylum somewhere in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica
    If germanics the world over are so concerned about the Afrikaner, why do they not organise asylum for us... guess it is all just talk and no walk.
    Expecting other nations to storm to our help while offhandedly, repeatedly and without substantiation dismissing the only real local attempt to help ourselves is, quite honestly, somewhat contemptible.

    Regardless, your criticism towards morally supportive Germanics completely ignores the political and metapolitical realities in Europe. What you're wishing for is essentially an implementation of Jus sanguinis on an unprecedented scale and lax ancestral parameters except for race, considering we've been a separate and unique branch of European civilisation for hundreds of years with no single ancestral nation being responsible for more than 43% of our blood. Something like this can only follow after a major revival of racialist thinking, and would likely need to be preceded by catastrophe, reawakening, the expulsion of the Arab-Muslim population that have overrun Europe and are now replacing the indigenous population, closing it off to third worlders equally as tightly as a volkstaat in Southern Africa would, etc. If the European spirit is strong enough this is an inevitability, but sympathetic Europeans' hands are at this time clearly tied. By the time we could realistically expect Europe to "save" us, it will be too late. Our own hand will be forced much sooner. The only way for us to survive as a people is, after all, a volkstaat.

    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica
    For 3 - 5 million whites thinking they can live in Africa, is like being in a bad marriage open to abuse by the majority anytime.
    Which is a correct description of our current situation, except for one mistake: the ravishers are the Bantus, the "settlers from the Congo", not Africa. The continent itself isn't going to spit us into the sea. As soon as we procure a nation state and we're no longer subject to an abusive majority, this is precisely the issue that will be largely solved.

    Besides, the millions of whites in Europe are quickly heading the same way. The fact that it's the European homeland will not save them from the abuses of the domineering and theocratic Muslim and other third world colonists. The answer (for anyone) doesn't lie at all in "where we go", but in adopting the right ideology and required resolve.

    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    Allow me to tell you one thing: many Germanics work for Muslims, because the fellow Germanics do not give them a chance at jobs. Can OASIS promise us the same kind of jobs and perks our Muslim employers can? [etc. etc.]
    You still appear to be demonstrating the psychopathology that is xenophilia - loving the 'Other' while holding contempt for your own kind. You imply Muslims are by some virtue more generous in handing out employment than Afrikaners, and are even more nurturing of the sick. Drawing a contrast between perceived inherent Muslim and Germanic behaviour, and consequently judging Muslim behaviour to be superior, is rather overt Muslim supremacism.

    Ironically, you're doing the same thing as Judeophiles, just with another 'Other' as a favourite.

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    I can take my qualifications elsewhere

    Your thought pattern would make me run a mile. I will not waste my expertise in that homeland.

    Pointing out the good in Muslims leads to an undue, non-academic tirade from your side. Some Germanics are the pits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    Afrikaans has to change with the times anyway. If you try to preserve Afikaans culture as it is, the homeland will turn into HIllbillyland.
    Excuse me, what the are you implying?

    This statement is blatantly false and is based on anti-Afrikaner propaganda. You don’t have tact my dear, if your opinion is that Afrikaans culture and blood is not worth preserving then what exactly are you doing on a preservationist board?

    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    Your thought pattern would make me run a mile. I will not waste my expertise in that homeland.
    Then run a mile and dont return to Skadi, also your expertise what ever you believe them to be is not needed amongst my "HIllbilly" clan...
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearingAfrica View Post
    Your thought pattern would make me run a mile. I will not waste my expertise in that homeland.

    Pointing out the good in Muslims leads to an undue, non-academic tirade from your side. Some Germanics are the pits.
    You will not "waste" you expertise in an Afrikaner homeland, a homeland for your own people, by your own people, but you'd rather "waste" them in an Arab country ? That doesn't make any sense. Do you see your contradiction, especially since you are so adamant that Germanics don't give other Germanics work, but that Muslims do. In the same breath, you are not willing to "waste" your expertise on other Germanics, so you are just as bad as those you are accusing.

    How can you be so complacent about the Genocide of your people, your language and your culture, yet you believe that we should be assimilated into an over-crowded, economically suffering Europe. THen you accuse Stormraaf's very logical post of being a thought pattern that would make you "run a mile" ?

    Some Germanics are the pits, yes. Those such as yourself.

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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Stormfont : Dan Roodt


    1. Maybe Dan Roodt can tell us exactly how much he has been earning from the pledges on STORMFRONT, where he proposes people to use Paypal to help him (Roodt) help South Africa.

    How much has been donated since he started?
    In what way(s) was that money spent to "help South Africa".
    Transparency would do a lot of good.

    I fail to see how he can support Israel.

    2. As for Steve - nice songs & friendly disposition, but how about managing your own household?

    Is this the way to convince people of the integrity of OASE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterkspies View Post
    You will not "waste" you expertise in an Afrikaner homeland, a homeland for your own people, by your own people, but you'd rather "waste" them in an Arab country ? That doesn't make any sense. Do you see your contradiction, especially since you are so adamant that Germanics don't give other Germanics work, but that Muslims do. In the same breath, you are not willing to "waste" your expertise on other Germanics, so you are just as bad as those you are accusing.

    How can you be so complacent about the Genocide of your people, your language and your culture, yet you believe that we should be assimilated into an over-crowded, economically suffering Europe. THen you accuse Stormraaf's very logical post of being a thought pattern that would make you "run a mile" ?

    Some Germanics are the pits, yes. Those such as yourself.
    Thank you for stressing my ideas about OASE.

    Muslims - here and abroad - give many white Afrikaner people jobs. Good jobs. For some older than me, better than they ever had, even under Apartheid. Some loyalty is not necessarily a bad thing.

    Some Afrikaners are really backward. Many of them could not even uplift themselves the way many blacks and coloreds could. I know someone originally from District 6 and then Hanover Park, who left South Africa at the age of 20, earned a masters' degree and is holding an excellent position abroad now. Many whites cannot even come close. Such whites are lazy and really the pits.

    I cannot and will not associate with them purely on the basis of color / race. The coloreds that uplifted themselves during Apartheid are far better people.

    I can see it happening: a lot of uneducated whites will rush to that little homeland.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimminger View Post
    Excuse me, what the are you implying?

    This statement is blatantly false and is based on anti-Afrikaner propaganda. You don’t have tact my dear, if your opinion is that Afrikaans culture and blood is not worth preserving then what exactly are you doing on a preservationist board?



    Then run a mile and dont return to Skadi, also your expertise what ever you believe them to be is not needed amongst my "HIllbilly" clan...
    What exactly do you want to preserve? The Apartheid situation of only a single woman in parliament?

    While you are at it (with your preservation), you might want to preserve Latin too. And start reading the Bible in the original languages. Everything has to change, otherwise it will stagnate.

    Your - "your"! clan might find yourselves isolated from the rest of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimminger View Post
    Excuse me, what the are you implying?

    This statement is blatantly false and is based on anti-Afrikaner propaganda. You don’t have tact my dear, if your opinion is that Afrikaans culture and blood is not worth preserving then what exactly are you doing on a preservationist board?



    Then run a mile and dont return to Skadi, also your expertise what ever you believe them to be is not needed amongst my "HIllbilly" clan...
    I am here on this board so that, should the ANC government by any means turn around and force all Afrikaners to that homeland, I can somehow prove that I never approved of the idea.

    I am s*** scared that I might be sent there ... truly so.

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