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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Ethnic Europeans and European-Americans will need to understand that the future lack of food or medicine will be because more and more of it is presently going to the immigrants.
    That will be part of it. But another perhaps larger element leading to U.S food supply instability is China and particularly demand from China. China already imports large amounts of grain from the U.S. If there was ever a failure of the U.S grain harvest (the worlds largest grain harvest) you would see food prices increase greatly.Something similar happened in Russia in 2010 where grain yield dropped 40% due to record drought. Under those circumstances the U.S government might want to put a freeze on all grain exports, including to China. The problem would be that China owns a large proportion of the U.S national debt, if they were to call in that debt the U.S would go into default instantly.The Chinese, millions of whom regularly starve to death during the most severe food shortages may argue that they need all the money they can get to feed their people in the crisis. If the debt is called in it marks the end of Americas ability to borrow money on the international market and it's goodbye U.S.A as a world power.
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    As with any fire, those who would be affected by it try to contain it or extinguish it. At the very least, prevent it from spreading to areas so far unaffected. Fires also die on their own without more fuel.

    It is not enough for seeds to be planted, for they must have proper care to grow.


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    I am, like many others, hoping for and also actively working towards a fundamental change in Europe. But the protests currently going on in Europe fall short of potentially succesful revolutions. Unless a revolution is strategically, organizationally and mentally guided by a new and comprehensive weltanschauung/worldview, it can only end up in two ways:
    • as an utter failure;
    • a replacement of the old problems with other problems ;


    So far I only heard people telling what they DON'T want and shouting about what they are against, and a few call for old ideals of (some form of) socialism. This is not a vision and strategy. I don't hear them calling for the construction of something new that actually:
    • solves our problems;
    • create new and better institutions that work for our people;
    • provide a new and feasable societal groundwork of strength;
    • economical models that are strong and dynamic while also serving the people themselves;
    • replace the currently failing groups and power structures, including the media, with something else which enables good government that is based on values of strength, honor, vigor, discipline, courage and such;
    • can act as a power factor in todays global world while fully maintaining our nordic roots and interests;
    • ...


    So unfortunately these riots and protests have no chance of ending in a positive and structural change. But to end with a positive note, people are starting to wake up. And that is a good and necessary thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    That will be part of it. But another perhaps larger element leading to U.S food supply instability is China and particularly demand from China. China already imports large amounts of grain from the U.S. If there was ever a failure of the U.S grain harvest (the worlds largest grain harvest) you would see food prices increase greatly.Something similar happened in Russia in 2010 where grain yield dropped 40% due to record drought. Under those circumstances the U.S government might want to put a freeze on all grain exports, including to China. The problem would be that China owns a large proportion of the U.S national debt, if they were to call in that debt the U.S would go into default instantly.The Chinese, millions of whom regularly starve to death during the most severe food shortages may argue that they need all the money they can get to feed their people in the crisis. If the debt is called in it marks the end of Americas ability to borrow money on the international market and it's goodbye U.S.A as a world power.
    E-X-A-C-T-L-Y , and it is not a matter of if it will happen, it is a matter of when. And the when is very soon in my eyes. I am only staying in the New America so i can get my flight ratings, education and mass stockpile of weapons. After that I am on shore (out of new america) watching the titantic mess sink into the deep.

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    Revolutions are only achieved through two means, through the ballot box or through a bullet. Unfortunately for most Europeans, they have no access to firearms, nor have they been able to field a electable candidate that's willing to make real changes. As such, all these demonstrations accomplish is the letting off of steam, nothing substantive.

    But the funny thing about revolutions is that once they've been achieved, they slowly but surely begin to turn into the very thing they were formed in rebellion against. Probably no greater example of this phenomenon can be found than what happened in the US after the Illegal War To Prevent Southern Independence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Our governments says we have to carry Africa on our backs, what we will have then is a very high demand for food, which in return till lead to higher food prices for us. Since food prices are ricing higher and higher, I guess it's all working according to the plan.
    Whose to say they are right? How long have you been giving to Africa??!
    We have a similar mentality with Arabs and Asians and its all to appease them its a joke. Your people should march to the streets demanding that money be given to your own 1st

    Tell these idiot loons who did Norways founders ask their money from?!?
    What the fairy bunny?!

    Its the greatest farce of all - And you+ your people(and sadly some Australians) are falling for it
    But in Australia a good deal of people cant stand the rubbish its usually stupid Labour Party who does it all though Both the major parties need to be wiped

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    To echo what others have said: this won't change anything.

    I doubt these people have immigration as one of their priorities. Don't get your hopes up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    As such, all these demonstrations accomplish is the letting off of steam, nothing substantive.
    This is even a dangerous thing. When people have let off steam, they tend to be a little relieved and go back home somewhat satisfied about the fact that they protested. This only means that they accept the situation after all and again become more docile again.

    All the anger is then spent on pointless (and in my opinion brainless) protests. All this anger should preserved for one major strategic move.

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    All the anger is then spent on pointless (and in my opinion brainless) protests. All this anger should preserved for one major strategic move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Ethnic Europeans and European-Americans will need to understand that the future lack of food or medicine will be because more and more of it is presently going to the immigrants. Lets just hope they aren't too fat to take to the streets when they FINALLY decide enough is enough!
    I don't think you understand what he was saying. It will only be enough when things actually are bad enough. It's not enough for it to be bad enough in the future. Most people don't work that way.

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