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    Quote Originally Posted by feisty goddess View Post
    I did read the whole post, but that's when it was BURIED, not MADE. It could have actually been carved generations back.
    Not likely. Tombs of the wealthy were often carved in preparation by those who knew their time on this earth was coming to an end, and almost exclusively by the elderly. But they certainly would not have done so too far back. I cannot recall reading of someone who had a tomb prepared for themselves like this at the age of 26. Since I could find no further information on its exact date we are left with no choice but to accept 1496 as the approximate or precise time the carvings were made.

    You do contribute a lot to this forum, it certainly does live up to the idea of what you think you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyramidologist View Post
    The theory of evolution rests heavily on the discovery of intermediate fossils types. Yet none have ever been found, this is why in the last few years evolutionists have abandonded the fossil record for genetics. In fact, if you go to any Natural History Museum they will say since Darwin's day (so well over a 120 years ago) still no transitional fossils have been found.

    ''We are now about 120 years after Darwin and the knowledge of the fossil record has been greatly expanded. We now have a quarter of a million fossil species but the situation hasn't changed much -- ironically, we have even fewer examples of evolutionary transition than we had in Darwin's time''.
    -Field Museum of Natural History Bulletin

    That's why evolutionists have now moved onto genetics. If you were to debate evolution 20 or so years ago it would still have been about fossils, its now though all about genes. If you ever now watch a creation vs. evolution debate, fossils are rarely discussed - only DNA etc is.



    Right. So if dogs only produce dogs why are the evolutionists saying dogs sprung from non-dogs? If humans only give birth the humans why are evolutionists saying humans sprung from the ape or a creature with apish features?



    The reason scientists have moved on to genetics recently should be self evident given the fact that to move on to genetics 40 years ago would have been pointless.
    It also provides the strongest line of evidence, even Darwin lamented in the Origin of species that the rareity of good fossils might be an issue.

    Why scientist debate creationists I will never understand,


    I cant teach you evolution here, its clear from this very post you have little or no understanding of the topic (and thats no insult, the majority dont), all I can say is please rectify that,

    Phrases you use like "sprung from" (a period of millions of years is not springing), If ape is 2 million years BC and man is 500,000 years BC, How many transitions/morphological changes would have to happen?
    If all those generations were fossilized you would see that each is transitional to the next generation and every generation changes so very little and at no point on that line would any fossil be half human half ape, the changes just do not work like that, its not a good example though as we are still Apes, Apes only gave birth to Apes and its still happening, do you see why no half/half anything will be found, however if you look at our morphology and an Apes in the form of fossils say, the indicators are there,

    ie you have one Ape fossil and one human fossil, not an Apeman fossil,

    Only one small identified linking feature on a fossil is required to be what we call "transitional", but in truth all life forms are transitional to the next generation.

    IE fish to amphibians, is a fish with lungs that require fresh air a fish or an amphibian?, its still a fish with lung that require air, but it shows transition.


    and your use of the word evolutionist exposes a few inner thoughts too.
    As are various things you have said in this thread with regard to what is proof and evidence in science and how the scientific method and peer review works, im guessing science is not your strongest subject but you are young and there is plenty of time to study it.

    Read up on Taxonomy, Taxonomic trees for further information, most people know squat about the topic but to get your head around the evidence fossils provides and doesnt its a pretty important area of study.

    There are only no transitional fossils if you are looking for an absurdity like a half dinosaur half bird.,

    All fossils are transitional as in they all have mums and daughters, ie the line,

    The way science works is evidence is followed to reach a conclusion not by forming a conclusion and then trying to find evidence to back that conclusion up.
    Remember that and you will not go far wrong.

    Infact forget all ive just wrote as im not the best teacher, will PM you some good links tomorrow to get you up to speed.
    Jesus promised an end to suffering, Thor promised an end to the Frost Giants.

    We dont see Frost Giants any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wodens Day View Post
    People back then knew of dinosaur skeletons. Dragons were their approximation of what the animals would look like in the flesh. They likely did not know dinosaurs were long extinct and possibly imagined giant monsters still existed somewhere on the planet.
    That is a plausible theory. I had to read a book on this theory for my course, its called The First Fossil Hunters: Paleontology in Greek and Roman Times. Here is some info -

    ''Since fossils have presumably existed for millions of years, why don't we see much paleontological thought from ancient writers? Classics scholar Adrienne Mayor suggests that we can, in fact, learn much about the Greek and Roman attitudes toward fossils if we turn to a surprising source of data and theory: their myths. In The First Fossil Hunters, she explores likely connections between the rich fossil beds around the Mediterranean and tales of griffins and giants originating in the classical world. Striking similarities exist between the Protoceratops skeletons of the Gobi Desert and the legends of the gold-hoarding griffin told by nomadic people of the region, and the fossilized remains of giant Miocene mammals could be taken for the heroes and monsters of earlier times''

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    Its a shame Ive lost the link to old English written articles and accounts that had some very interesting snapshots of life in 17th and 18th century England.
    Of relevance here is the accounts of a village that suffered the attentions of a "Dragon" at its local graveyard, that would dig up and consume freshly buried corpses.

    These animals where said to be very difficult to kill, so I have jumped to the conclusion that the real time of their disappearance, coincided with the regular use of gunpowder.

    Even in recent literature, it is recorded that still living Welsh remember the flying lizards.

    From around the world their are many such indications that dinosaurs didnt die out 65 million years ago.
    Marco Polo reported the King of maybe Mongolia having a wagon drawn by six dragons and a royal dragon keeper.

    Go to Nigeria today where you will find many locals eyewitnesses of a dinosaur that lives in the wilds.

    Hers a picture of one of many animals the Temple builders where familiar with in this carving from a temple in Cambodia



    This from very old tiling in Palestine



    Today many people report flying reptiles in the wilder places in America, maybe the following pictures real or a fake?



    Heres an interesting account http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nation09.htm

    The Japaneses in about 1977 even issued a postage stamp to commemorate the finding of this rotting carcass http://www.discoverynews.us/DISCOVER...hing-Nets.html

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