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    Well, that was crap from Haye.

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    I never tought to see so many brits in Hamburg cheering for that mulatto.

    Are white people really this blinded by "patriotism"?
    "Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roderic View Post
    Are white people really this blinded by "patriotism"?
    Yes, absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox
    Another Slav who doesn't look European...who'd have thought?
    Thank you, I feel like I'm surrounded by crazy people whenever they imply that this boxer is white/European. As said, seems very turkid related in phenotype. If not turkid, then some other sort of strange caucasoid/asiatic mixture from western asia.

    I don't believe that any "Slavs" who appear as such are actually Slavs, however. The only true Slavs in my opinion are those who are actually white/European, and who would not be confused as anything else. Narinir makes a good point though, most other races around the world would just identify this guy as "white."

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    The mongols controlled Russia for a few centuries with now a lot of russians having mongolic features.

    He might actually be one of those.

    (Mongols and Turks are cousins)
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    The mongols controlled Russia for a few centuries with now a lot of russians having mongolic features.

    He might actually be one of those.

    (Mongols and Turks are cousins)
    He doesn't look Mongol influenced; I think it’s more of an Armenoid/Cro-Magnid (possibly Baltid) blend with strong Pontid influence. Not exactly what you would call "White", but certainly Caucasoid.

    Einarr is right, individuals whose ancestors were absorbed into the Slavic gene pool from non-Slavic, non-European populations should not be considered Slavic. They are not authentic Slavs just as people like Rashida Jones, or Johnny Depp are not authentic Germanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narinir View Post
    He doesn't look Mongol influenced; I think it’s more of an Armenoid/Cro-Magnid (possibly Baltid) blend with strong Pontid influence. Not exactly what you would call "White", but certainly Caucasoid.

    Einarr is right, individuals whose ancestors were absorbed into the Slavic gene pool from non-Slavic, non-European populations should not be considered Slavic. They are not authentic Slavs just as people like Rashida Jones, or Johnny Depp are not authentic Germanics.
    Rashida Jones or Johnny Depp aren't good examples.

    Rashida Jones have a Jewish mother and a Mulatto father and Johnny Deep is an amerindian mongrel with some germanic blood.

    Klitschko also seems Armenoid/Cro-Magnid to me.

    I would consider him White/Caucasoid but not Germanic.

    "Slavic" isn't a homogeneous racial group or ethnicity.

    "The Slavic people are Indo-European peoples, living mainly in Eastern Europe and Central Europe.
    The term Slavic represents a broad ethno-linguistic group of people, who speak languages belonging to the Slavic language family and share, to varying degrees, certain cultural traits and historical backgrounds."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples

    I consider eastern european Jews and Tatars as "Slavs" and some Nordic "slavic" speaking eastern europeans as Germanic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roderic View Post
    I consider eastern european Jews and Tatars as "Slavs" and some Nordic "slavic" speaking eastern europeans as Germanic.
    I'm sorry Roderic, but that doesn't make much sense. Jews speak Yiddish, a Germanic-based language, all throughout Europe and elsewhere around the world. How can you call them Slavic if they speak a non-Slavic language? Eastern-European Jews are not Slavs, they are Jews, just as Western-European Jews are not Germanics or Latins, they are Jews. They are Jews wherever they are. The same could be said about Tatars. Jews and Tatars came into contact with Slavs, they did not evolve together with Slavs. They are not one in the same.

    As far as Nordid Slavs are concerned, I highly doubt they are all of Germanic descent. They are more likely remnants of the early Slavic population as they are most often concentrated in the region where the Slavs are thought to have originated (Ukraine, North-West Russia, Belarus, Poland), as opposed to regions where they migrated (Balkans, near-Caucasus). According to many ancient sources early Slavs were almost indistinguishable form Germanics. They were as Nordid as they come.

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    Slavs are a subgroup of the white European race (the others being Germanics and Mediterraneans). Those people in Roderic's post don't look Slavic in the least. They look like Central Asians.

    In Russia, they even have a word for those non-white Russian citizens (''Rossiyane'') to distinguish them from ethnic Russians (''Russkie'').

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