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    Quote Originally Posted by Goomer View Post
    I've got some Stewart in my ancestry On my mother's side....we are related to Mary, Queen of Scots I just also found out that our primary French ancestry comes from the surname Burgoyne....as in General Burgoyne from the American Revolution....and it is also a Germanic name in origin....from the Germanic tribe that invaded France.

    Yay! I figured most of my Frenchie connection was Germanic anyway.
    I also have Stewart ancestry through my father's side who married a Stewart, my Stewart came from Galloway area.

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    I was born in Norway but my father is from Scotland...his surname is JUSTICE which is evidently very popular in some parts of southern Scotland. I did some extensive research ( as much as I could ) and I found the JUSTICE surname to be of Norman origin. I also found out that in some parts of Denmark ( German / Danish border area ) the JUSTICE surname still survives...although there are some variations such as JUSTUS, JUSTIS, JUST, and possibly JOST. I also found some WILSON's on his side of the family...but, they spell it WILLSON.

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    you forgot one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    We've probably all found our way to the thread "Is Scotland Germanic thread", but just how many Clans actually have Germanic origin? Below is a list of all Germanic Clans with an example of one of the Clan's tartan below the name and a link providing more information. If I happened to miss one, just let me know and I'll put it up.

    Don't forget that Clans do have more than just 1 tartan. Clan names / surnames can also have more than 1 variation of the spelling


    Scoto-Norman Clans


    Clan Bruce: http://www.scotsconnection.com/clan_crests/Bruce.htm



    Clan Crawford: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...d/history.html



    Clan Cumming(Comyn): http://www.rampantscotland.com/clans/blclancumming.htm



    Clan Fraser: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...r/history.html



    Clan Graham: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...m/history.html


    Clan Gordon: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...n/history.html



    Clan Hunter: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...r/history.html



    Clan Jardine: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...e/history.html



    Clan Hamilton
    : http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...n/history.html



    Clan Hay(s): http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...y/history.html



    Clan Little:http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...e/history.html


    Clan Lyon(s): http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...n/history.html



    Clan Montgomery[/B]: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...y/history.html (Not to be confused with the Gaelic Montgomeries)



    Clan Stewart: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...t/history.html



    Clan Sinclair: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...r/history.html



    Clan Wilson: http://www.electricscotland.com/webc...z/wilson2.html


    Scoto-Norse Clans


    Gunn
    :http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...n/history.html




    Clan Rollo:
    http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...o/history.html

    *Clan Rollo also has Norman roots.

    Clan Macdonald:: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...d/history.html



    Clan Macleod: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...d/history.html



    Clan Macneil: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...y/history.html

    *Not to be confused with the Macneil's of Barra


    Clan Moffat: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...t/history.html


    Clan Sutherland: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...d/history.html


    Clan Young: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...ung/index.html



    Other Germanic Origins.

    Clan Armstrong: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...g/history.html

    *Anglo-Saxon


    Clan Murray: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...y/history.html

    *Flemish


    Clan Redpath / Ridpath / Rippith: http://www.riddy.co.uk/Pages/Article...n_on_Name.html
    *No official tartan. Black Watch and other typical Tweedside Tartans are used. (link here)
    ** Anglo-saxon

    Clan Home / Hume: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...ome/index.html

    * Anglo-Saxon

    Clan Lindsay
    http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_cl...y/history.html

    *Anglo-Saxon, Norman or Flemish
    What about Clan Johstone? go to www.clanjohnstone.org. We were lowlanders in the Dumfries/Galloway region if I read up correctly.

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    Clan MacNEil of Barra also have a lot of Norse ancestry, that is the clan I am descended from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
    Clan MacNEil of Barra also have a lot of Norse ancestry, that is the clan I am descended from.
    Consider it added -- soon.

    I see that after 3-4 years some of the tartan images have since been removed or disabled. I'll get to fixing that soon as well.

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    Seems my direct paternal clan (Clan Kerr) hasn't been mentioned. The clan is of Norman origin with tradition and some clan historians maintaining that they originated from the Stavanger area of Norway. The etymological origins of the name are also Old Norse.

    Furthermore, the area in which the Kerrs held sway (Roxburghshire, etc.) were part of the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Bernicia and Northumbria and hence the other primary input besides Norman would have been Angle (and perhaps some Flemish who also settled the area post-Conquest.) Though of course to deny any Brittonic/Celtic input would be inaccurate, and not a few believe that the Border Reiver's cavalry culture may stem from Sarmatian horseman stationed at Hadrian's Wall!

    This area of the Lowlands was also famous for the Scottish "Teutonicism" of the 19th century which saw Lowland and Border Scots are "more English than the English" or in other words more purely Teutonic than the rest of the Isles. Actually, this interesting little article puts forth the view that Germanic paganism survived in the Borders much longer than elsewhere in the Isles:

    https://odinicriteargentina.wordpres...order-ballads/

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    I study Scottish DNA quite a bit and found that a large part of the MacIntosh clan bear haplogroups R1a and I1, which aren't common in north west Europe but are quite common across Scandinavia. The Macintosh name means Son of the Thane and I believe its historical origins point to a more Pictish or perhaps Gaelic line. However, seeing as theyre from Inverness and right across the sea from southern Norway, maybe some Scandinavian settlers made their way to the region and became absorbed into the clan.

    My own surname is Nobles and supposedly listed as a sept of Macintosh. Some stories say that after the massacres and clearances, part of the Macintosh clan adopted Noble/s as a more english sounding surname and fled to the US. Noble/s is most common today in Aberdeen and the west marches of the border region in England. I know for sure that the border Noble family is completely separate from the Macintosh clan but I'm not sure about the Aberdeen folk. My few dna matches are all distant but have the names Davidson, Anderson, Fraser and one or two others that could have been part of the Chattan Confederation and/or live in the Inverness, eastern loch ness area. Sadly the best I can do is triangulate my family's origin.

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    Alrighty, a bit of an update.

    I've gone in and have replaced all the missing tartan images. I've also pulled them from the same source, so they should all be the same size and format as an extra bonus. I'll also be conforming all the images into the same size.

    I couldn't find a thing on the surname of Nobles in any of my books or via the interwebs and as such not added it to the list -- yet. However, I've added Johnstone and have for the moment encompassed the regional MacNeils as one.

    Like a flying brick, it hit me that I need to add an Anglo-Saxon category in itself. In truth, i'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't include such a thing in the first place. I'm not sure what the me five years in the past was thinking.

    As for the others, I'll get to them later tonight. Real life a'beckons for the moment.

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    I didn't mean to assert Nobles as a germanic clan name, but Macintosh instead. And not necessarily by written history but by DNA. Sorry for that confusion!

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    Thank you so much for sharing such interesting fact i am kilt lover and the tartan one are mine most favorite. currently i am searching about the information regarding the some tartan history Lindsay tartan kilt is one of them and these fact i have never found before .

    Quote Originally Posted by trublu View Post
    I also have Stewart ancestry through my father's side who married a Stewart, my Stewart came from Galloway area.
    these all things are simply amazing and new for me. i want to know more if some one can share more

    what kind of influence ? can you share the detail

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