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    A couple of notes: CEU refers to White Americans from Utah. All the populations had sample sizes of at least 5, but the sample sizes range quite a bit between nations. There are some very minor errors, such as the Irish being shown to have a touch of East Asian, which isn't supported in the corresponding spreadsheet.

    East African is certainly ancient and probably shouldn't be counted as true admixture. The same can probably said of the very minor Uralic/Asiatic traces that can be found as far West as France and even Portugal. Maybe in the latter case it could be related to Amerindian admix, however since it's found in trace amounts throughout the Mediterranean and even North Africa, it's probably ancient.

    It's interesting that even though Y chromosome studies show Lithuanians to have considerable Asiatic paternal ancestry, almost as much as Finns, they show virtually no Uralic admixture, while Finns show around 8-10%

    Sub-Saharan ancestry doesn't exceed 0.2% in any Germanic or Celtic nation. While in Southern Europe, every single individual seems to have at least trace amounts of SSA, in NW European colonial nations (France, Britain, the Netherlands), it's not present in a majority of indviduals, and where it does occur, it rarely exceeds 0.1% (Britain's 0.2% average -- which was rounded up, btw -- was due largely to a single high-scoring individual out of over 30). This probably suggests a more recent (colonial-era) infusion in NW Europe than in the Mediterranean.

    As expected Germanics (and Celts) share very similar genetic profiles, all scoring as predominantly Western European.

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    Eastern Europe seems to have less admixture than we guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgard View Post
    Eastern Europe seems to have less admixture than we guessed.
    Finland and Russia have the highest levels of admixture in Europe. The undefined "mixed Slav" group also has the kind of Asiatic levels I'd have expected. But I admit, Belarus, Poland and the Baltic states have low admixture. I commented a few days ago that the Lithuanians you posted looked like the most European of all the groups presented, so I'm glad to see my eye didn't fail me there I'd also noted Belarusians looked more European than Russians. As for the Poles, I'm somewhat surprised. I'd be interested in seeing some regional studies for the population (and for all populations).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Finland and Russia have the highest levels of admixture in Europe. The undefined "mixed Slav" group also has the kind of Asiatic levels I'd have expected. But I admit, Belarus, Poland and the Baltic states have low admixture. I commented a few days ago that the Lithuanians you posted looked like the most European of all the groups presented, so I'm glad to see my eye didn't fail me there I'd also noted Belarusians looked more European than Russians. As for the Poles, I'm somewhat surprised. I'd be interested in seeing some regional studies for the population (and for all populations).
    I can only tell you what I have seen but they tend to look all white when your over there. I am not shore that all the people you see in the UK are Polish I think some are gypsy or other groups saying they are Polish as they have no right to work. You are correct that regional studies would be interesting. Russia is huge so I imagine most are ok but some are almost Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgard View Post
    Russia is huge so I imagine most are ok but some are almost Asian.
    I'm pretty sure 'Russians' on the chart means 'ethnic Russian'. I've seen other autosomal studies on them that produce similar results (around 10% Mongoloid). Although, granted, ethnic Russians from different parts of European Russia probably vary quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    I'm pretty sure 'Russians' on the chart means 'ethnic Russian'. I've seen other autosomal studies on them that produce similar results (around 10% Mongoloid). Although, granted, ethnic Russians from different parts of European Russia probably vary quite a bit.
    I meant ethnic Russians. I think that the population admixture would very a lot by region. Russia is about three times the size of the EU. Some groups would be isolated from mixing and others would have done a lot of it over the years.



    I cant believe there would be consistent admixture across any territory this large.

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    Do these things actually measure 'admixture' or just diversity of population? All British people are not 1/5th Medeterranian, 1/5th of British people are Medeterranian. The Welsh are medeterranian and they are included in 'Britain'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wodens Day View Post
    Do these things actually measure 'admixture' or just diversity of population? All British people are not 1/5th Medeterranian, 1/5th of British people are Medeterranian. The Welsh are medeterranian and they are included in 'Britain'.
    No it is admixture averaged out not ethnicity in the country but the average mixture in the DNA. This is not saying that all British people are 1/5th Med but on average they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wodens Day View Post
    Do these things actually measure 'admixture' or just diversity of population? All British people are not 1/5th Medeterranian, 1/5th of British people are Medeterranian. The Welsh are medeterranian and they are included in 'Britain'.
    I'd rather there were a breakdown of English, Welsh and Scottish. There probably will be in time.

    At the moment, the best I could find was this table (from the same site):



    Kent, Cornwall, the Orkneys, Ireland, NL, Germany are almost exactly the same in levels of Mediterranean ancestry.

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