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    The primary external (and to some extent internal) threat to US Sovereignty is the Internationalist Banking Mafia who own and control the US Federal Reserve.
    The US Federal Reserve (which isn't all that "US" and hardly "Federal") is a bigger problem than NATO or the UN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog
    So back to NATO....

    When Libya was assualted by NATO, America was dragged in by her "allies".
    Ehm, France and Britain assaulted Libya, post-event mandated by NATO. When the Blitzkrieg tactic failed and about two weeks into the inflicted war, France and Britain found it appropiate to have the European tax payers pay their insanity and gave over command to NATO.

    America simply could have said no to the request by Britain to supply aircraft carriers, but after all, the US keeps several in the Mediterranean anyway, so why not use them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog
    There are many foreign influences on America that threaten our sovereignty, like the UN and NATO.
    Ach Zimo, America lost her sovereignity in 1913. It's really not so hard to understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog
    Do German citizens (or other EU citizens) feel that it is appropriate to pressure their elected representitives to end the association with NATO (or the EU for that matter)?
    Let's assume for a moment our elected representatives would give a rat's ass about their citizen's will, then yes, it would be appropiate. In fact, it would be required by common sense to do so. As all these orgs (UN, NATO, EU, etc) are but different outgrowths of the same evil within.
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    There is no Jewish-capitalist-banking conspiracy. Jews just help Jews the world over, yet even from casual observance they aren't united or even close to united in some grandiose conspiracy. Such views scare rational people away when you can easily pull up Jews contradicting each other over their very own issues. There is no conspiracy. Rational people know this and walk away when they hear such stuff who would otherwise support our cause, many of whom acknowledge Jews hold too much influence and are a negative aspect.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13713787

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    Leonard Nimoy, the Jewish-American actor who starred as Mr Spock in Star Trek, has become the latest celebrity to weigh into the debate about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    In an open letter published on the website of the non-governmental organisation, Americans for Peace Now, Mr Nimoy explains his support for a two-state solution.

    He makes reference to his experience on the fictional Starship Enterprise to help express his views.

    He characterises this as "a secure democratic Israel as the Jewish State alongside an independent Palestinian state".

    The 80-year-old actor argues that the two-state solution "is still critical in this region for both Israel and the Palestinian people".

    To illustrate his assertions that "the time for recriminations is over" and that "assigning blame over all priorities is self-defeating", Mr Nimoy describes an early Star Trek episode entitled, Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

    "Two men, half black, half white, are the last survivors of their peoples who have been at war with each other for thousands of years, yet the Enterprise crew could find no differences separating these two raging men," he says.
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    Assigning blame over all other priorities is self-defeating. Myth can be a snare. The two sides need our help to evade the snare and search for a way to compromise”

    Leonard Nemoy

    "But the antagonists were keenly aware of their differences - one man was white on the right side, the other was black on the right side. And they were prepared to battle to the death to defend the memory of their people who died from the atrocities committed by the other."

    The actor goes on that he does not mean "to belittle the very real issues that divide Israelis and Palestinians". However, he says, the fictitious scenario shows that "myth can be a snare".
    "Security and prosperity"

    In his letter, he writes in favour of the division of Jerusalem, which both Israel and the Palestinians claim as their capital.

    He mentions how a group of 50 prominent Israelis, including the former heads of Israel's intelligence service, Mossad, and its internal security agency, Shin Bet, have called for two states for two nations.

    The actor also describes recent events that have an impact on the peace process - from the murder of a Jewish settler family in the occupied West Bank to the Middle East uprisings.

    He adds that strong American leadership is needed "to pivot from the zero-sum mentality of violence to an attitude that focuses on the parties shared interests: security and prosperity".

    This line has been interpreted as a reworking of his famous Star Trek line: "Live long and prosper," which usually followed a Vulcan salute in the sci-fi series.

    The letter has been extensively picked up by the Israeli media.

    "It's only logical: Mr Spock supports two-state solution for Mid-East peace," reads the headline in the Haaretz newspaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin
    There is no Jewish-capitalist-banking conspiracy.
    There are no dishonest bankers
    There are no Jewish bankers
    There are no dishonest Jewish bankers

    There are no dishonest capitalists
    There are no capitalists

    rofl

    Rational people know this and walk away when they hear such stuff who would otherwise support our cause, many of whom acknowledge Jews hold too much influence and are a negative aspect.
    Rational people remember that the US Fed, the super corrupt money printing Private Bank is controlled by Jews.

    Rational people remember that most of Russia's worst oligarchs are Jews and that most of the corrupt US Economic "Advisers" from US Academia who went there to "assist with market reforms" aka rob everything which wasn't nailed down are Jews.

    Rational people are well acquainted with Rothschild and Soros connections to financing "Color Revolutions", promoting destructive liberalism and promoting destructive social trends via the media which they own.


    As for Mr Spock, he is a very reasonable Klingon but that has no bearing on the Reptilians who run Israel and have no intention of heeding Mr Spock's advice.
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    You make the mistake to expect that "each and every" Jew would be part of the "same" plot. This is however not the case.

    Some are communists, some are Human Rights advocates, some are banksters, some are for Israel, some against, there are even pseudo-socialist (and bankers at the same time - and candidate for French presidency like Strauss-Kahn).

    There might even be some few who are not aware of just how much power the Jews hold.

    What they all share, and where they are all united, is their hate on white, and especially Germanic people. As a result, and by what you naively view as "normal networking", they all do and/or support something that helps to destroy our people. Knowingly or unknowingly.

    But you are right. It is not a "conspiracy theory". It is public knowledge, it is not hidden, it is not a secret. It is in the media, it is in tv shows, in movies, it is everywhere. Just when you speak their name, like in the fairy tale Rumpelstiltskin, they stamp with their feet and scream in panic "conspiracy theory".

    As if that would be an argument to defeat anything.
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    So what your saying is it's not a conspiracy theory but a "conspiracy fact".

    How many people have to be in collusion before it is a qualified conspiracy? Two? Three? I think that this conspiracy has more than two or three people involved.

    Conspiracy is whatever happens when a group of people try to steer events or material to the ends they desire. There is nothing wrong with pointing out when people happen to be conspiring.

    Speaking of conspiracy, I have to go now because my co-workers and I are in a conspiracy to find us some more work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    How many people have to be in collusion before it is a qualified conspiracy? Two? Three? I think that this conspiracy has more than two or three people involved.
    One of the characteristics of any conspiracy is that it requires the involvement of > 1 person.
    (I suppose if one had a very clever dog or pet ape then they could substitute for "person")

    The (very real) Bankster Conspiracy contains > 1 person working in the shadows and colluding with likeminded partner/s to defraud and manipulate good, non-suspecting, naive, hard working folk who don't have the mental capacity, the reliable sources of information or the time to understand how they are being defrauded and manipulated.

    There is no theory about how ordinary people are being cheated and ripped off by the Banksters and their Politicians, it's a known and reasonably well understood fact. There's nothing to debate as regards to whether this is a "theory" or reality.

    What is debatable are the exact agendas of the Bankster Mafia, which people may or may not be involved, the extent of the Conspiracy and so forth.

    For example, many ordinary Jews are not involved in the Internationalist Bankster Conspiracy, however, the top structure of the Banksters, Aristocracy & Plutocracy vs the Goyim Conspiracy contains a disproportionately high number of Jews vs their total number amongst the general population of the countries from which they operate.

    The Bankster Conspiracy itself is of course not exclusively Jewish, however, the majority of the top command structure is. Many if not most of the major shareholders and Bank Owners in this Enterprise are also Jewish.

    Conclusion - Bankster Conspiracy is Jewish / Zionist dominated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimobog View Post
    So what your saying is it's not a conspiracy

    -Yes- I am saying there is no conspiracy. I'm saying the white millionaires/billionaires just walked out of the room because some fool just went off on some rant about some Jewish banker conspiracy.


    A little tribe randomly helping itself does not amount to a massive conspiracy. My last job had Jewish organizations properties being foreclosed on by Jewish bankers. Apparently somewhere down the conspiratorial grapevine the memo was lost in these cases.... That OR there is no conspiracy and such talk only hurts white racialists in the mainstream. One might even go so far as to say the people espousing conspiracies are paid Jewish intel via Israel. These persons do a great service for Israel as they hype it's power and hype this little tribe of people as being some all-powerful force, whilst at the same time creating disillusionment and simple paranoia-lunacy within such white racialist movements, further corrupting them to the mainstream.
    Last edited by GroeneWolf; Tuesday, June 21st, 2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason: no need to use the word nuts

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