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    There is no cure for stupidity
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    There is no cure for stupidity
    Oh I agree with that Roy

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    Yes Austin but you're agreeing for a different reason than the one I'm thinking of.

    Enjoy those easy printing press glory days while they last.
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    I just don't believe that Israel and manipulative-globalist-Jews of some form are why Germany is the way it is currently. I don't agree with that assessment. Germany still has to find itself is all. The EU is just a fake construct in which Germany buys influence in the region, demonstrating that Germany still isn't sure of which path to take. Germany runs Europe with it's economy, I don't feel one needs to deal in conspiracies in order to explain what they see in the world.

    Germany could turn against Israel in all forms tomorrow if it wanted. I disagree 100% that it is run by America or Jews. You do great disservice to Germans by espousing such crazed views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    There is no cure for stupidity
    Ah You should not be so hard on him.

    Reality is I pretty much seen things the same why he does a few years back.

    That is until a German Friend enlightened me as to some of the Facts about the Oligarchs in Russia.

    As such being a person that has always had an intense interest in Cold War truth. I started to check it out.

    Sure enough most of it checks out.

    And as you begin to contrast it with the American Side the Light begins to shine into the dark corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    I just don't believe that Israel and manipulative-globalist-Jews of some form are why Germany is the way it is currently. I don't agree with that assessment. Germany still has to find itself is all. The EU is just a fake construct in which Germany buys influence in the region, demonstrating that Germany still isn't sure of which path to take. Germany runs Europe with it's economy, I don't feel one needs to deal in conspiracies in order to explain what they see in the world.

    Germany could turn against Israel in all forms tomorrow if it wanted. I disagree 100% that it is run by America or Jews. You do great disservice to Germans by espousing such crazed views.
    But, who controls the German banks?

    [Not to mention most of Switzerland's.]

    [We might as well throw the IMF and the European central bank in there too while were at it.]
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    Some information to ponder below. Of course we have no way of verifying this information (since the authorities are deliberately and systematically denying the public access to it) but definitely worth considering:


    Keiser's documentary may be sensational for getting an acknowledgement from the German central bank, the Bundesbank, that Germany's gold reserves are actually in the custody of the United States. This is a detail the Bundesbank long has denied to others who have inquired and is potentially a matter of great controversy in Germany. It raises the question of whether the German gold reserves are actually intact at all or whether they have been used by the U.S. government as part of its long-time gold price suppression scheme or have been comingled and diminished with the gold reserves of other countries held in the United States.

    While Keiser's documentary does not identify the Bundesbank spokesman who confirmed the transfer of the German gold reserves to New York, it does provide the date and location of the confirmation: March 17, 2008, at Bundesbank headquarters in Frankfurt. The documentary shows that Keiser was there and got the interview.

    After his interview at the Bundesbank, Keiser remarks: "The most fascinating thing I've heard is that all the gold in Germany is in New York." Indeed.

    Keiser's documentary is titled "Brown's Bottom" and you can watch it at YouTube here:
    German Gold transferred to US



    Bundesbank joins Fed in demanding secrecy for gold swaps
    Submitted by cpowell on Wed, 2010-12-01 21:43. Section: Daily Dispatches
    4:45p ET Wednesday, December 1, 2010

    Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

    Germany's Bundesbank today joined the U.S. Federal Reserve in demanding secrecy for gold swap transactions involving those central banks.

    The Bundesbank brushed off 13 specific questions posed by the German journalist Lars Schall, whom GATA had encouraged to pose the questions. The first of the questions was: "Does the Bundesbank have gold swap arrangements with the United States / Federal Reserve?"

    In reply to that question and the 12 others, the Bundesbank press office told Schall:

    "In managing foreign reserves, the Bundesbank fulfils one of its mandated tasks as an integral part of the European System of Central Banks (ESCB). We trust you will understand that we are not able to divulge any further information regarding this activity. Particularly with respect to the confidential nature of information about where gold holdings are kept, we are unable to go into any greater detail concerning exact locations and the quantities stored at each of these. Likewise, owing to the strategic nature of the activity, we are not at liberty to provide you with more detailed information about gold transactions."

    Schall sought an explanation from the Bundesbank about its activity in the gold market and the security of German gold reserves held outside Germany itself, particularly German gold held in the United States.

    The Bundesbank's refusal to answer Schall's questions can only heighten suspicion that use of German gold is central to the gold price suppression policy undertaken largely surreptitiously by the Federal Reserve, U.S. Treasury Department, and Bank of England.

    In a letter sent in September 2009 to GATA's lawyer, in response to GATA's request under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act for access to the Fed's gold records, Fed Governor Kevin M. Warsh confirmed that the Fed has gold swap arrangements with foreign banks and insists on keeping them secret:

    http://www.gata.org/node/8192

    GATA urges its supporters to bring Schall's correspondence with the Bundesbank to the attention of financial journalists everywhere and particularly in Germany. This correspondence is another acknowledgement of secret central bank intervention in the gold market and of surreptitous central bank market manipulation generally. Central banks cannot answer questions about their custodianship of national gold reserves without exploding the gold price suppression scheme, and most financial journalists -- particularly those at the Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, the London Times, the Associated Press, Bloomberg News, Reuters, and the London Telegraph -- don't dare ask such questions lest they commit actual journalism and spoil their cozy relationships with official sources.

    Schall's report on his exchange with the Bundesbank about the German gold reserves is headlined "Some Justified Questions for the German Bundesbank" and can be found at the ChaosTheorien Internet site here:

    http://www.chaostheorien.de/artikel/.../content/some-...

    Or try this abbreviated link:

    http://tinyurl.com/284sn2g

    CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
    Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
    http://www.gata.org/node/9363
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    Influences run deep my friend Roy.
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    And for the benefit of the uninitiated and the uninformed Skadi members I'll remind them that the US Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE BANK.

    It is somewhat alarming and disconcerting that a PRIVATE BANK which sits at the top of a CORRUPT MONEY PRINTING ECONOMIC SYSTEM demands and maintains secrecy over gold swap transactions and that supposedly NATIONAL BANKS such as the Bundesbank are complicit in this conspiracy of silence.

    To all you doubters and naysayers: Ask yourselves this simple question.

    Why would a NATIONAL BANK collude with a PRIVATE BANK to hide such information from Public Oversight unless this NATIONAL BANK was in fact NOT INDEPENDENT and the Nation that it represented was NOT SOVEREIGN?
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    So back to NATO....

    When Libya was assualted by NATO, America was dragged in by her "allies". There are many foreign influences on America that threaten our sovereignty, like the UN and NATO.

    Do German citizens (or other EU citizens) feel that it is appropriate to pressure their elected representitives to end the association with NATO (or the EU for that matter)?

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