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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Well I blame cultural Marxism for most everything today in respect to whites. To have any real view that you didn't adopt from some news channel is officially condemnable all thanks to liberally-sanctioned cultural Marxism having created populaces which literally have no views of their own and are perfectly content to exist that way.

    This turns many who do have actual views who'd otherwise be rational ideologues who could do something productive into manics of sorts who believe that they are going to usher in a Nazi-era socialism somehow in a world of the market (they aren't). The market economy is here to stay for a good long time as every major nation has adopted it worldwide. In this respect I dislike the rambling neo-Nazi who is convinced national socialism is right around the corner or is even on the horizon. It isn't. We should work within reality. The real world doesn't care about your fixation with national socialism of a bygone era, you just marginalize yourself every time by going on about it as realistic option. The people with money and skills walk out of the room so to speak and you end up with a bunch of people who never had much connection to the functioning world.

    The market economy is poison to our people. I will never embrace it nor will I accept it as a inevitability.

    As for your idea of working within accepted political parties I don't find that much effective at all.

    As for the usage of the word nazi I find it used as a defamation word.

    It's national socialism.

    What we need to do is create a entirely new party built upon national socialism but one that is seperated from it's past to make it more socially acceptable.

    Žoreišar: How utterly void of any distinctive cultural expression, though. I think one would gather more positive impressions from mainstream bystanders if one had a more culturally vibrant profile. After all, it would showcase a part of the culture one wants to preserve, and doesn't make the group appear as just a bunch of mindless, mass-suggested drones - which is exactly what the general public and media prefer to portray you as.

    Shirt-and-tie is too lacking in identity and soul, in my opinion.
    What would you do in comparison?

    Zimobog: Caledonian can't really afford the suit in the photo. Instead he will buy a cheap suit which will look exactly like that: a poor blue-collar guy in a bad second hand suit trying to look respectable.
    Hey! Watch it now!.....

    Wittmann: As I have said, Hitler failed when he tried being violent and throwing a Putsch in the Beer Hall, how did he become the Chancellor of Germany? By being elected, not by acting like a violent idiot. We need, as I always say, a party that we can back, yet, one that maintains face as being "acceptable" and "moderate", we can go crazy burning and destroying, after we get elected.
    To be honest we can't rely on the political voting process too much.

    It's already clear that enemies of our people have no intentions of letting us segregate or have any existence of self determination whatsoever.

    If the political process won't let us be independent then other means instead will have to be found that will make us as such.
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Well, Austin, for purely PR reasons you might have a point here.

    However, it wasn't long ago that you stated (twice!) that you'd like to see all tattooed National Socialists hung so this is a bit of an opinion shift on your part, to put it mildly! In fact, in the space of just a few hours you’ve gone from stringing them up to acknowledging that they might not be “bas as a person” so how can anyone take your wildly-fluctuating views seriously?



    As for these earlier jibes ^ about me being a "cultural Marxist", I can assure you I can see the woods for the trees here, my friend. I also used to think that smart = good and untidy = bad, but give me a whole gang of Skinheads any day to some well turned-out Fox News presenter in a smart suit who lies through his teeth for a living. The same goes for thieving bankers who have got us into a far bigger mess than ordinary folk with tattoos, regardless of appearances. Sorry, mate – end of theory!!!

    Now look, this whole thing depends on individual tastes to a large extent and you seem to be a stickler for appearances. I am not, but this doesn’t make me a “cultural Marxist” by any stretch and I probably uphold much higher standards than you, truth be told! For example, one of my pet hates is people with poor spelling and communication skills and I’m quite astounded that in over 10 years of education you (and millions more like you, Austin) haven’t yet grasped the concept of apostrophes.

    3 quick examples …

    1) Tattoo's are not Germanic in origin

    2) you claim that I am wrong to judge Germanic's on what they do to their bodies.

    3) This is cultural Marxism at it’s finest.

    If we are seeking to marginalize groups for whatever reason then I would start with those who think that every time they see an S on the end of a word you have to stick an apostrophe in front of it! How on earth can we get our message across if it isn’t even written properly?

    No wonder you have such a low opinion of those who hand out leaflets and treat them with contempt despite their honourable (but, according to you, futile) efforts. I dare say it’s because you’d be struggling to produce one yourself that made any sense!!!

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    (former leaflet distributor, minus the tattoos).


    Okay so you believe in National Socialism do you? (you claim to be NS)

    National Socialism is directly contradictory to cultural Marxism.

    One cannot be a cultural Marxist and be ideologically a National Socialist (I can wear, tattoo, have sex with, or believe whatever I want whenever I want =cultural Marxist/Critical theory).

    Someone who argues the statement, as you do, "I can have whatever tattoo or piercing I want." is a cultural Marxist. They are the exact opposite of someone who believes in boundaries set forth by cultural and historical customs and norms of respectability, such as in NS with kept uniforms, clean-cut men, non-modern-obsessions such as tattoos, the epitome of cultural Marxism in modern form.

    I WOULD sanction a medical-mental-wipe every modern imbecile who claims to be NS but has a big Apache Indian tattoo on their arm in typical cultural Marxist form. That person is a complete ideological moron, hypocrite on every level. I am not saying they are a bad person. The two are not the same. I am saying they are a moron and don't know what they are talking about. Hitler and the Nazi's expelled the cultural Marxist's and many of them migrated to America and Britain. They, the cultural Marxists, are the ones who proclaim you should not judge one by their tattoos and their modern obsessions of degeneracy in all forms, it's their choice and they can do what they want. NS is the opposite, representing structure and culture.


    I just wanna point out what cultural Marxism is and what it does.

    Typical default product of cultural Marxism of Western non-white.



    Typical Western cultural Marxism white-indoctrinate. (Though most his tats are of a Western-Christian theme which is at least less degenerative)



    Typical Apache-tribal-tattoo, cultural Marxism white-indoctrinate. (Notice Denise Rodmans tribal tats as well)



    Complete cultural Marxism, white-indoctrinate destruction laid bare. (Why does she have an Apache-male-warrior-tattoo-on-her? Because she's a cultural Marxist moron)


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    Zimobog: Caledonian can't really afford the suit in the photo. Instead he will buy a cheap suit which will look exactly like that: a poor blue-collar guy in a bad second hand suit trying to look respectable.
    Hey! Watch it now!.....
    No offense, man! It would be the same thing if I tried it.

    I still remember when my father and I were working at a vast plantation for a very wealthy family that owned the largest baking (not banking) company in the US. They liked us very much and invited us to their daughter's wedding (to another very rich person).

    I will never forget the looks we got! My father wore a jacket much like the one in the "casual well-dressed man" post from earlier and tie and I wore my church clothes. Turns out we were the only two people there not wearing shiny black with white shirts (including the "help"). We looked like a couple of bumpkins because we are.

    There used to be a large Nationalist org in the US called "National Alliance". It was started by a collage professor. Lots of skinheads in the 80s and 90s joined, they had a great newspaper and a cool record label etc. to attract the skins. But Dr. Pierce, the founder, insisted that the skinheads wear "formal" attire to all funcitions and when representing the NA. Those guys looked like real dipshits because none of them had worn a suit before in their lives! They would stand around in typical skinhead fashion passing out fliers but fiddling with their bad clip-on ties and pulling at collars their had never worn before. They had DM boots on at the bottom of $20 levi dockers slacks and poorly tailored sport coats. Fish out of water is what they looked like.

    You (and everyone else) will get more miles out of being yourselves and perfecting the message you want to deliever to the point that it delievers itself.

    If you must deliever the message in person, the individual chosen to speak should have the most in common with his/her audience. So you wouldn't want to stick someone with a thick New York accent up on a podium down south or a tattooed skinhead in front of a bunch of little old women. There is definately a crowd out there for every type of person. But very few people can cross social groups well enough to pull it off.

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    As long as it is for Germans only. Minorities always try to jump on our band wagon. I do believe a united one people is always the most productive. I respect your point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    What would you do in comparison?
    That depends on the nationality of the demonstrators in question, but I think it would be a good idea to take use of their own national folk dress traditions. Not necessarily the national costume, but distinct clothing expressions rooted in their culture.

    For example in Norway, we have these type of traditional sweaters with their unique knitwork, which could be used as a basis for a more modern and refined appearance:







    Other nations may have other clothing traditions spesific to their own culture which they could further develop into something suitable.

    I'm not completely opposed to the suit-and-tie look either, though, but I think one should at least make it somehow representative for one's own national traditions, and not just simply plain, black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    That depends on the nationality of the demonstrators in question, but I think it would be a good idea to take use of their own national folk dress traditions. Not necessarily the national costume, but distinct clothing expressions rooted in their culture.

    For example in Norway, we have these type of traditional sweaters with their unique knitwork, which could be used as a basis for a more modern and refined appearance:




    Other nations may have other clothing traditions spesific to their own culture which they could further develop into something suitable.

    I'm not completely opposed to the suit-and-tie look either, though, but I think one should at least make it somehow representative for one's own national traditions, and not just simply plain, black and white.

    Žoreišar,

    Interesting idea. I'm not opposed to it, however some may argue that modern uniform might appeal more to the standpoint of starting a present day rebellion.
    National Socialism is the only salvation for Germanics and Europids everywhere. Capitalism, libertarianism, and communism is the enemy.

    National socialized collectivism must prevail over radical individualism.

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    There's plenty of Houston/Dallas/NYC/Chicago/SF/LA+++++ business professionals of all fields who discuss Hitler and NS and Jews over sushi outings and bar outings all the time. One of the most common sayings is "The trains always ran on time in Nazi Germany" in reference to the order of those days and civility of a white society. They just don't make it known. They can't. They have to exist in the real world. the difference is these people have influence. The leaflet person does not and never will. I don't hate the leaflet person, I just don't agree with their notion that handing out leaflets of their strong views did anything but hurt the very interests they hold. You have to work within the current system. This is not the times in which Nazi Germany came to being. The system is stable. You have to work within it. You don't have to be part of a Nazi-party. You can be part of the dominant parties and just corrupt them, such as the green movement, such as the liberal or conservative movement. This is what the leaflet person must come to do. Inter-mesh and influence.
    Talking in sushi-bars about Adolf is what you understand as being a nationalist? You claim these people have a lot of influence but are living in the 'real' world and can't talk about it where they work?

    I tell you who is going to change the world, not those Sushi-bar hangers but people who have a vision and have guts to work on that against any public trheat, against persecution and what not.

    Hitler was living on the streets and sold paintings on the street, he didn't hang out in sushi-bars. The SA was the equivalent of what Skinheads are today, people who provide 'muscle', as protection in that environment is always necessary because if you start to work on NS you are a threat to the powers-that-be.

    You need people who counter 'ganstas' and latino-gangs. I don't see the sushi-bar hangouts to be a match for those people.

    The world is changing especially in the US, the middle class is going to be destroyed and impoverished. Those people are a good target for us because they can identify those who took their wealth. They are people who have nothing to lose.

    And with leaflets you reach people you would normaly not reach. Other than through the internet. The thing is giving leaflets you have to leave your anonymity, you get a face, people recognize you and so on. Because you are afraid of it you put those people down, that is all.
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    Austin, thank you for taking the trouble to find all those pictures of “typical” tattoo wearers and for explaining to me what NS is really all about … very enlightening!

    However, this is 2011 and not the 1930’s and we don’t start from the same point today as we did then. Your idea of imposing dress restrictions is totally unfeasible, and once we’ve satisfied your prejudices against tattoo-wearers I’ve no doubt you’d have a problem with such things as long hair, so these would become your next target group (until another one came along ) and eventually we’d all end up looking like corporate bankers - what few of us there were still remaining!

    Sorry, but your clique of banking colleagues are far too content in their middle-class comfort zone to be of much use to us and, even if they did find a spark of rebellion from somewhere, I think Ocko summed it up perfectly by saying ...

    You need people who counter 'ganstas' and latino-gangs. I don't see the sushi-bar hangouts to be a match for those people.
    He’s quite right. I think you should be very careful about which groups you disown because your days in the chic sushi bars with your chattering business associates won't last forever and you might just need some real people on your side one day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Typical Western cultural Marxism white-indoctrinate. (Though most his tats are of a Western-Christian theme which is at least less degenerative)

    Uhm... he's Jewish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson
    He’s quite right. I think you should be very careful about which groups you disown because your days in the chic sushi bars with your chattering business associates won't last forever and you might just need some real people on your side one day!
    Another vote here for Ocko and Godwinson. That sophisticated and cultured metrosexual sushi-bar set you're hanging with aren't going to be worth much once the chips are really down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Uhm... he's Jewish.



    Another vote here for Ocko and Godwinson. That sophisticated and cultured metrosexual sushi-bar set you're hanging with aren't going to be worth much once the chips are really down.

    A real job requires a real man, not an iPhone fondler.


    I don't own an iPhone. IPhones are not as good as other smartphones with better keyboard functionality anyways. I can't stand them.

    Class is just a reality to which I acknowledge plays a key role in our world. Hitlers father was a bureaucrat. So Hitler had tendrils of a class-based nature his whole life. His class played a role in his mental molding, even though he didn't directly follow his class structure he inevitably did make use of his fathers career-choice influence in his life later down the road politics-wise.

    You can't write off class because you don't like it as a social construct. Class plays a huge role in everything. "Real men" is bullshit. Hitler was a painter for gods sake and wanted to be one for the rest of his life. Painters don't exactly fit some pseudo bullshit "real men" nostalgia image. That whole line of thinking is the typical line of thought from the homosexual, masculinity-obsessives that Himmler and Hitler had to kill off in the early Nazi leadership because of their sheer idiocy and simplistic world views of "real men".

    It was the ideologues, the Goebbels, the Himmlers, Hitler, whom made Nazism. Not the degenerative "real men" homosexuals such as Ernst Röhm.

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