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    Over 25 Percent Young Swedes Think That It Would Be "Good or Very Good" for Sweden to Be Less Democratic and Ruled by a Strong and Dictatorial Leader

    Over 25 percent young Swedes think that it would be "good or very good" for Sweden to be less democratic and ruled by a strong and dictatorial leader

    “The benefits of a democratic society needs to be discussed and debated in schools, in the press and broadcast media and in society as a whole,” said Staffan I. Lindberg, research director for the World Values Survey Sweden, to The Local.

    The new World Values Survey shows that 21 percent of 18- to 29-year olds in Sweden would consider changing party allegiance for a small cash imbursement.

    Among the country as a whole the number dropped to 7 percent. Of those over 40 the number was 2 percent.

    More than a quarter of the younger Swedes were also willing to give their vote to a MP in exchange for a job for themselves or a close friend or relative.

    In a debate article in Friday’s Dagens Nyheter (DN) Lindberg wrote that scientists are seeing worrying threats against the foundations of democracy in Sweden, at the same time as dictatorships in the Middle East and North Africa are falling under the pressure of young people’s demand for a right to vote.

    According to the survey, 26 percent of 18-29-year-olds thought that it would be good or very good if a “strong leader who didn’t have to care about a Riksdag or an election” ruled Sweden.

    Older generations value democracy higher. 97 percent of those over 30 stated that it is important to live in a democratic country.

    It is significant, wrote Lindberg, that the randomly chosen group of Swedes forming the basis for the study represented voters from across the political spectrum.

    The participants were all in employment, had the same basic education and the same faith in institutions such as church, university, national defence and different types of organisations. None were more or less willing to take part in any forms of protests or demonstrations.

    According to Lindberg some of the explanation may come from the “mechanic” view on democracy taught in Swedish schools, on young Swedes’ prevalent lack of confidence in the political parties and a more narrow consumption of news than earlier generations.

    “The younger generation have a more individualistic approach. But they must realize that in order to be free to further individual gains, society must safeguard the general democratic rights which this builds on,” he said to The Local.
    Source http://www.thelocal.se/34160/20110603

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    society must safeguard the general democratic rights which this builds on
    Why must the "right to commit cultural suicide" (ZOG's general democratic rights in other words) be safeguarded and built on?

    It needs to be rejected and torn down together with the social engineers and traitor politicians who promote it.

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    Sweden is dependent on exports for our economic health, take away our exports and we are done for. This makes it necessary to uphold a regime in Sweden which is tolerated by the outside world. A western authoritarian government which starts to violate "human rights" would find itself sanctioned by the EU and the US and this would cripple the country.

    If people complain about minor reforms to our safety nets, which they do, they will surely complain about not having jobs to go to or food to eat. The government that finds itself in power at that time will have tarnished the principles for which it stands in the eyes of the public.

    Such a government would have no hope of succeeding, no matter how sympathetic I might be to the goals that it would try to pursue.

    The western states have committed themselves to a foreign policy of intervention and left-wing idealism, as long as they continue to do so there is no hope for individual countries wanting to leave this structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    Sweden is dependent on exports for our economic health, take away our exports and we are done for. This makes it necessary to uphold a regime in Sweden which is tolerated by the outside world. A western authoritarian government which starts to violate "human rights" would find itself sanctioned by the EU and the US and this would cripple the country.
    It may not be comfortable but I doubt that Swedes would starve. A guy I know in Russia said that during the 1990's when nobody was getting paid they found ways and means around the problems of surviving.

    ZOG wants to convince us to believe that we are dependent upon their system and their money but we aren't really. Sure, things will be very different and initially it would be difficult to adapt but it can be done.

    It's just that most ppl don't want to be moved from their comfort zones and prefer the slow sweet suicide.

    The western states have committed themselves to a foreign policy of intervention and left-wing idealism, as long as they continue to do so there is no hope for individual countries wanting to leave this structure.
    It's not left-wing idealism, it's Neo-Colonialism, Imperialism and Slavery dressed up as "humanitarianism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    Sweden is dependent on exports for our economic health, take away our exports and we are done for. This makes it necessary to uphold a regime in Sweden which is tolerated by the outside world. A western authoritarian government which starts to violate "human rights" would find itself sanctioned by the EU and the US and this would cripple the country.

    If people complain about minor reforms to our safety nets, which they do, they will surely complain about not having jobs to go to or food to eat. The government that finds itself in power at that time will have tarnished the principles for which it stands in the eyes of the public.

    Such a government would have no hope of succeeding, no matter how sympathetic I might be to the goals that it would try to pursue.

    The western states have committed themselves to a foreign policy of intervention and left-wing idealism, as long as they continue to do so there is no hope for individual countries wanting to leave this structure.
    Sweden is one of the few countries in Europe that could actually sustain itself on its own, because of the acreage of farmland available per capita. There is also the sea, which provides food itself. The argument is really that Swedes would rather have playstations and let refugees have their women and land. More people are apparently getting their priorities back in line.

    There may be other countries, like Russia, that would trade with a nationalist Sweden. And one country must take the lead. Look at Iceland, which voted against enslaving themselves to bankers. This emboldened others to move towards doing the same. A nationalist Sweden might encourage a nationalist Denmark and Norway, and so forth. Stranger things have happened.

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    Funny, I was just going to mention Russia. I doubt that they would mind buying or stuff even if we had a strong-man leadership; they certainly have no problems with Belarus. Nor would the Chinese.

    In the end we would just ally ourselves with the BRIC-countries and become their number one high tech supplier.

    But the study that I would like to see would concern what it is that these respondents want the strong man to do. It is one thing to agree on a strong man in principle, but in order to make it happen there needs to be one political program for these people to get behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    But the study that I would like to see would concern what it is that these respondents want the strong man to do. It is one thing to agree on a strong man in principle, but in order to make it happen there needs to be one political program for these people to get behind.
    As these charts show:

    http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/wvs...rticle_base_56

    Sweden stands out as having a population that has accepted the values of cultural marxism to a higher degree than any other country. One could argue that there is also a counter-reaction to this brewing among young people, but the reality is still one of an overwhelming majority of young people adhering to cultural marxism as the natural state from which everything else is to be judged.

    It is thus likely that those wanting less democracy might want to achieve goals that are in line with these ideas. The environment for example which alot of young people have become concerned over, it is common for there to be impatience with how cautious and slow the political change proceeds in this area, and they might want to help it along by sidestepping obstructionist elements. Another issue that is embraced to a high degree is anti-discrimination against women and minorities, where young people might see a need for radical political intervention.

    Then we might have the voter base for the Sweden democrats making up a portion of these strongman-supporters who want to see deportations and the likes, but I don't think we can assume such a correlation to be absolute, as value surveys, not just this one but surveys in general, make it clear that traditionalists still represents a minority among Swedish youth.

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    Dictatorship? Idiots. A Dictatorship would never work. It's too oppressive, and people don't like being told what to do.
    A Dictatorship would mean that my Dad would be kicked out of Sweden and never see his wife again because he is not Swedish by birth.

    My Uncle Christoffer would disagree with a Dictatorship very strongly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrid Runa View Post
    Dictatorship? Idiots. A Dictatorship would never work. It's too oppressive, and people don't like being told what to do.
    A Dictatorship would mean that my Dad would be kicked out of Sweden and never see his wife again because he is not Swedish by birth.

    My Uncle Christoffer would disagree with a Dictatorship very strongly....
    I doubt they would go booting Scots out of Sweden. Dictatorship kept eastern Europe white wile it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Source http://www.thelocal.se/34160/20110603

    As a Swede, what do you think?
    Splendid development


    I like the Swedes.


    It can work, just don't officially call it a dictatorship. Just do what you need to do and after every policy change donate some trivial amount to Israel and nobody will say anything.

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