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    Microsoft Banning Call of Duty Players Using Swastikas

    The head of Xbox Live’s moderation team has warned that users who use a swastika symbol in online multiplayer games of Call of Duty: Black Ops can expect to be banned.

    Black Ops allows players to design their own emblems from scratch, which led to one user dimly asking Stephen Toulouse what would happen should he create and use a swastika while playing online. Toulouse’s response that he would be banned caused an outcry amongst Internet Jerks. Many of the Jerks argued that:

    1. Microsoft was being hypocritical (as the single-player game contains swastikas), or
    2. That the swastika can have other meanings, or
    3. That OMG YOU’RE DESTROYING THE VERY PERSONAL FREEDOMS THE NAZIS WERE TRYING TO TAKE FROM US.

    All of which, of course, is monumentally stupid.

    Firstly, the single-player game in Black Ops is rated ‘Mature’ so you know what you’re getting, whereas an online component of any game is impossible to rate. Secondly, while the swastika has had other meanings in the past, it is overwhelmingly known as the symbol of a regime that committed the mass genocide of millions, so using it is just being hostile and trying to deliberately rile people. Thirdly, shut up.

    Anyway, in response to these complaints, Toulouse wrote an eloquent (and entirely correct) response (that you can read in full here), stating:

    “Most [people complaining about our banning of the swastika] are just contrarians. They would never dare to wear a swastika openly, but they love to argue about how the world has “misunderstood” this symbol. Or they view any opportunity for human interaction, no matter the appropriateness, to push their point. [...] It’s not political correctness, it’s fundamental respect. If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the Earth, I think that’s great. Your Xbox Live profile or in game logo, which doesn’t have the context to explain your goal, is probably not the right place to do that.”

    I’m not usually a supporter of censorship myself, though even I recognise that, every now and again, it can be for the greater good. And this is one of those times, folks. Don’t be an antagonistic ass for the sake of it, eh?


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    Its messed up that you can get banned on a game you paid for, just for using a symbol. I mean unless your being a complete ass you shouldn't be able to be banned from a game. It would be more understandable on a server based computer game if you got banned from a server, but not a game like cod.

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    I'll bet if people knew that the Hindus used the swastika as a good luck sign then it wouldn't be so racist/bad!

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    Many people even know that Vikings used them as well, but they always say that Hitler ruined the symbol, and it will forever be a symbol of hate -_-

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    I'll bet if people knew that the Hindus used the swastika as a good luck sign then it wouldn't be so racist/bad!
    Actually, a Germanic using a solar wheel/cross (not even swastikas as used by the Third Reich) can be driven into serious problems, but if an Indian uses a Swastika in Europe, then it's ok.

    We who use our ancestors/religious symbols are evil racists, but Indians using their ancestors/religious symbols are totally right, even if they use this evil swastika; because they're Indians, they're so nice !

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    Stupid but entirely predictable. Another reason why nobody should support the pro-corporate line on piracy and how the internet should operate. Just look how they run their company-controlled networks of users. They are the very draconian-form of oppressive Nazi's they claim to protest against by banning swastikas.

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    This Hate spiel of the Swastika symbol by the (pivate-owned) western media is simply common practice to back up a well known annually advertised sympathy industry held together by corrupted western nations of this planet.. Its all a stage show via excelled propaganda..

    Nothing more and nothing less..

    The day will come when Truth hits the entire western nations like a Cyclone..
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    If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the Earth, I think that’s great. Your Xbox Live profile or in game logo, which doesn’t have the context to explain your goal, is probably not the right place to do that.
    ...and he has a very fair point in that. Half of those sporting a swastikas do so because they think it's "cool to be evil" without understanding a deeper meaning. The other half is at best a "closet nazi" who become outspoken about things in a video game, but would never take a step outside their house for a minute of activism.

    Beyond that, it's of course still ridiculous. No other folk has to suffer their holy, ancient symbols from being banned from vritually all places, simply because their use doesn't fit into the worldview of some folks.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Well I play the PC version and here is my playercard and a shot of my H&K G11...




    I have been playing for about two weeks now and thus I have only had one idiot feel the need to behave like an ass... Honestly I think most people don’t really give a shit. There are many people I have seen sporting a swastika in one form or another, heck there is even a clan called SS...

    I won’t play on German servers with it though...
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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    The gamers should go play Day of Defeat. Plenty of Nazi paraphernalia to go around for everyone.

    Also, Grimminger, perhaps this isn't the thread to ask, but do you have CoD: Modern Warfare 2? Maybe we can play matches together

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