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    Exclamation Post Strong Arguments, Scientific Evidence, And Other Facts to Use when Arguing with Race-Deniers

    I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread devoted purely to evidence supporting the existence of race.

    Please post studies, articles, books, and other highly credible scientific sources and evidence that support the existence of race. Also, please post strong/effective pro-race arguments, as well as links to other threads and posts (whether on this forum or a different one) that contain pro-race arguments.

    We will all probably need this at some point

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    Science appears to think otherwise. I don't think there are distinct races, but gradients of genetic diversity.

    http://genome.cshlp.org/content/14/9/1679.long

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/2739576

    http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journ...5/75.4long.pdf (you might need to pay for this last article unless you have a login)

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    Does Race Exist?
    A proponent's perspective
    by George W. Gill

    Slightly over half of all biological/physical anthropologists today believe in the traditional view that human races are biologically valid and real. Furthermore, they tend to see nothing wrong in defining and naming the different populations of Homo sapiens.

    Those who believe that the concept of race is valid do not discredit the notion of clines [gradients of change], however. Yet those with the clinal perspective who believe that races are not real do try to discredit the evidence of skeletal biology. Why this bias from the "race denial" faction? This bias seems to stem largely from socio-political motivation and not science at all. For the time being at least, the people in "race denial" are in "reality denial" as well. Their motivation (a positive one) is that they have come to believe that the race concept is socially dangerous. In other words, they have convinced themselves that race promotes racism. Therefore, they have pushed the politically correct agenda that human races are not biologically real, no matter what the evidence.

    Consequently, at the beginning of the 21st century, even as a majority of biological anthropologists favor the reality of the race perspective, not one introductory textbook of physical anthropology even presents that perspective as a possibility. In a case as flagrant as this, we are not dealing with science but rather with blatant, politically motivated censorship. But, you may ask, are the politically correct actually correct? Is there a relationship between thinking about race and racism?

    In my experience, minority students almost invariably have been the strongest supporters of a "racial perspective" on human variation in the classroom.

    The truth is, innocuous contemporary human-variation classes with their politically correct titles and course descriptions do not attract the attention of minorities or those other students who could most benefit. Furthermore, the politically correct "race denial" perspective in society as a whole suppresses dialogue, allowing ignorance to replace knowledge and suspicion to replace familiarity. This encourages ethnocentrism and racism more than it discourages it.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/first/gill.html

    I have a thread here about the anti-scientific mindset of the political correctness movement. This one post in particular is rather disturbing to say the least.

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    There is, I know, a problem for mixed race children when it comes to blood transfusions and organ transplants. The mixed-race person will not be able to find a donor.

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    Post Strong Arguments, Scientific Evidence, And Other Facts to Use when Arguing with Race-Deniers

    Here is something I found interesting...

    Lynn's meta-analysis lists East Asians (105), Europeans (99), Inuit (91), Southeast Asians and Amerindians (87 each), Pacific Islanders (85), Middle Easterners (including South Asians and North Africans) (84), East and West Africans (67), Australian Aborigines (62), Bushmen and Pygmies (54), Homo Erectus (50), Apes (22), and Monkeys (12).
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    I believe racial intelligence can also be discerned by looking at the productivity and standard of living of a given race/population. For example, Africa has always been a primitive country (that is until the arrival of the White man and later settlement by Afrikaaners). I am referring to "native intelligence" of a group, independent of the benefit of education or higher learning.

    How much has the standard of living improved since Blacks have been given the control of their own countries?

    What a country makes available to its people should surely be used as a measurement of intelligence as well.

    Here is something that really underscores my point:

    http://www.americancivilrightsreview...anfailure.html

    What I find as a "flaw" in this study though is that they refer to the "Jewish Race", whereas I always thought "being Jewish" referred to a religion and not a distinct and separate race.

    As the information shows, Blacks (even in America) are far below in intelligence compared to their White counterparts.

    So there you have it.
    Last edited by TXRog; Sunday, June 5th, 2011 at 02:34 AM. Reason: spelling

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    This Youtube channel is packed full of good information:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/MrHerrIQ

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