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Thread: If You Could Go Back in Time and Eliminate a Historical Figure, Who Would It Be?

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    Attila the Hun

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    Quote Originally Posted by ampersand View Post
    Abraham, if he existed. No Abraham means no Jews, no Christianity and no Islam...
    I doubt it; such a remote figure from an obviously legendary antiquity is about as real as Deucalion or Scyld Scefing. Ditto with Moses and very likely Jesus as well.

    I'd eliminate Paul/Saul, Muhammad, and Karl Marx.
    'Militia est vita hominis super terram [The life of man upon earth is a warfare] (Job 7:1).'

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    There seems to be rampant misconception about the consequences of certain chrono-assassinations:

    -Killing Gavrilo Princip would not have prevented World War I; that conflict was the result of geopolitical conditions and inter-state tensions which had been building for years. The murder of Franz Ferdinand was simply the spark that lit the fuse, and if not for him, some other event would have incited the European powers to war.

    -Killing Churchill would have made no difference to Britain's aggressive anti-German agenda in the build-up to World War II. Certain elements in the British establishment, most of them Jews, had resolved to pick a fight with Germany. Chamberlain had no appetite for war with Germany, knew international Jewry forced a declaration of war over the invasion of Poland, and was consequently swept aside. All the while, the Jews and other powers-that-be in the United Kingdom had been shopping around for someone who would more easily bend to their will for personal gain. They were fortunate to find a relentless self-aggrandizer like Churchill to realise their agenda. Had it not been him, another candidate would surely have popped up. The only upside I can think of is that perhaps a substitute would have lacked Churchill's charisma and ability to inspire national resistance, possibly encouraging the British to sue for peace.

    My candidates for retroactive elimination are as follows:

    -King Louis XVI, in his stead sitting a Monarch better suited to handle the crisis in France at the end of the 18th century, thus averting the French Revolution, the ideas of which, exported across Europe and the Americas, sent Western civilisation on the course to ruin it continues on today. Maybe decapitating the revolutionaries, rubbing out Robespierre, or even the guiding light of the Revolution and Enlightenment, Rousseau, would provide added security in that respect.

    -Karl Marx is another obvious choice, both in terms of the physical destruction wrought on nations around the world under the banner of Marxist/Communist revolution, and the cancerous effect Marxist doctrine continues to have on Western thought.

    -George Washington is an interesting possibility; not to offend Skadi's American posters, but I would much prefer a North America where British hegemony was not destroyed and replaced by a Judeo-Masonic republic based around destructive rhetoric about human equality. It is also quite possible that such an America would not be the racial nightmare it is now, shot through with Africans, "Great Wave" European ethnics, and Mexicans pursuing Reconquista.

    -Muhammad.

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    Jack, Harry, Sam, and Albert Warner.

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    I'm sure its already been said, but Olaf Trygvasson or Saint Adam of Bremen. Maybe the old religion would have hung on at least a little longer.

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