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    No Heaven, Says Stephen Hawking

    NO HEAVEN, SAYS STEPHEN HAWKING

    BRITAIN’S most famous scientist yesterday risked the wrath of religious groups by dismissing heaven and the afterlife as “a fairy story for people afraid of the dark”.

    The wheelchair-bound Professor Stephen Hawking, who has motor neurone disease, stirred up fresh controversy by rejecting the idea that life continues after the body shuts down.

    The 69-year-old physicist caused widespread anger last year with a book claiming the universe was not created by God. Now, in his latest interview, he said there was no heaven and our brains switch off like “broken-down computers” when we die.

    His new comments came in reference to his illness, which struck at 21 and left him almost completely paralysed, expected to die in a few years.

    He said: “I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken-down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.” But Stephen Green, of Christian Voice, said: *“People who believe in the afterlife don’t do so because they are afraid of death.”

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    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...tephen-Hawking

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    I think it's still a little early for him to say that with such assurance. In a few years he will know for sure
    Ganz er selbst sein darf jeder nur, solange er allein ist. Wer also nicht die Einsamkeit liebt, der liebt auch nicht die Freiheit; denn nur wenn man allein ist, ist man frei. Schopenhauer

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    How the hell is this news? Didn't he release a book a while back where he confirmed he was atheist anyhow?

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    I will simply say this: If there is a Heaven for those who have wrecked our civilzations over the course of recorded History, I want nothing to do with it, yet, in my bones I know they will not be where I will be once everything is settled.

    I'm betting my soul on it. Best of luck to all!

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    Typical of the anti-intellectual arrogance of these types.

    Funny, too, how they claim to be omniscient, just like the various deities whose existence they seek to refute.
    Omnia risus et omnis pulvis et omnia nihil - HPL

    "Oh, you should never, never doubt what nobody is sure about." - Willy Wonka

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    I cannot trust a man whose debilitating illness possibly biased his research.
    Personally I feel that there is just as great a chance that consciousness never ends, much in the same way the universe allegedly continues to expand. Since no one alive has been to the alleged "other side" to observe not only their own deaths but that of others, how can we ever know just what happens?

    Perhaps "heaven" is exactly at that point where the universe continues to expand. (Driving it further and further out of reach? )
    Has he ever published a complete account of his calculations or other means by which he came to this conclusion? (Remote viewing?)
    How would he possibly know where to begin to look for a heaven so that he can denounce it? (Perhaps his intention from the start?)
    What area/aspect of the universe was heaven supposed to occupy for him? Where did he expect it to be?

    Afraid of the dark? Perhaps he is afraid of the light!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    Typical of the anti-intellectual arrogance of these types.

    Funny, too, how they claim to be omniscient, just like the various deities whose existence they seek to refute.
    My experience is many of the chosen lol do not believe in the after life. Could that be because they know it isn't for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wm mauer View Post
    My experience is many of the chosen lol do not believe in the after life. Could that be because they know it isn't for them?
    Well it must be remembered that for Jews, along with Christians, Muslims, and Buddhists, the highest aim of spirituality is "reunion" with the godhead, aka the Second Death. In other words absolute destruction of their consciousnesses.

    I posted this link elsewhere, but thought it may be worth reposting here,

    Consciousness Beyond Life
    by Pim van Lommel

    http://www.harpercollins.com/books/C...=9780061777257
    Omnia risus et omnis pulvis et omnia nihil - HPL

    "Oh, you should never, never doubt what nobody is sure about." - Willy Wonka

    “niemand bleibt hier” - Maria Orsic

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    I believe it's possible that there is an afterlife, but I don't think it will be anything like what is written in the bible or any religion for that matter. I don't believe we will know where we go when we die until we are dead, but theres nothing wrong with having our own religious interpretations of what it takes to reach that higher plain of existence.

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    That pessimistic old bastard expects me to drop my faith because he says theres no heaven... nah I'm good. In his state how is he even conducting experiments? Oh wait, his field is all theoretical so is he saying theres definitively not a heaven or theoretically? Seems he's overstepping the boundaries of modern science with that declaration...

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