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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    Schopenhauer thought that everything was the manifestation of will. All that existed were degrees or shades of it. He didn't think that people lose their souls. He actually hated Christianity and didn't talk about 'souls' at all. He even advocated attenuation of the will, the extinguishing of the will entirely being equivalent to nirvana. His equations were basically will = existence = suffering.

    Also, after 'death' Schopenhauer thought that the will returned to raw existence, not even differentiated, and certainly not having access to the senses of the body, so he'd laugh at this Lommel guy's 'research'. In fact, you'd be calling Schopenhauer a troll if he were in this thread.
    Pssst.. I'm not really Arthur Schopenhauer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    Pssst.. I'm not really Arthur Schopenhauer.
    What a fantastic retort. I'm assuming you called yourself Schopenhauer and chose to use his portrait as an avatar because you agree with him on at least a basic level.

    I mean I'm not really getting the I-don't-agree-with-his-views-in-any-way-shape-or-form-but-I'm-going-to-use-his-name-and-face-for-no-apparent-reason-anyway approach you seem to have taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamar Fox View Post
    What a fantastic retort. I'm assuming you called yourself Schopenhauer and chose to use his portrait as an avatar because you agree with him on at least a basic level.

    I mean I'm not really getting the I-don't-agree-with-his-views-in-any-way-shape-or-form-but-I'm-going-to-use-his-name-and-face-for-no-apparent-reason-anyway approach you seem to have taken.
    Well I thought you may have been confused and thought that I was actually old Arty himself by the way you were going on.

    Also, try not troubling yourself too much over what you think I do or don't know about Old Arty. Of course if I'm mistaken and you don't have anything better to do with your time then trying to gleam from my forum posts the depths of my erudition then I suppose I could suggest some hobbies for you. Have you thought of embroidery? Building ships in bottles?
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    The enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth‐persistent,
    persuasive, and unrealistic.”—John F. Kennedy
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    I know I have mentioned in other threads the book History of God. It really sheds light on how Judaism, Christianity, and Islam evolved over time. It is well written and a most interesting read. I think most on this thread would enjoy its content. Believer or not, because it makes no claims just states the facts of how things evolved.

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    Brain and mind are two seperate things... the brain might cease to function however...

    And as for being - well, that's a whole different kettle of fish.
    Last edited by paraplethon; Sunday, September 11th, 2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Apples and such

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